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  • star@fed.amazonawaws.comS star@fed.amazonawaws.com
    @zenmaya @fugi i guess gnc would, in technicality, fall under the non-binary umbrella? or is this stupid to say /genq
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    @star @zenmaya Not if they identify as a man. If a person is a cis endo man, and gnc, they would not fall under FLINTA, strictly speaking. Whether that is the intention (of e.g. event organizers) would be a question worth asking. IMO it leads to the conclusion that FLINTA is not a very useful term to use.
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    • star@fed.amazonawaws.comS star@fed.amazonawaws.com
      @fugi @zenmaya well, sorry for being even more pedantic, HOWEVER COMMA, the word "female" has multiple definitions, both in the dictionary and in common, everyday language use.

      female (sex) does, indeed, translate to "weiblich".
      female (tech) usually refers to the hollow counterpart of a connector. it'd be silly to assume that it'd mean anything other gender related, although, obviously, the word has its meaning from an (outdated, as we all are painfully aware) sex-based definition.
      female (animal) would most likely translate to something like "Weibchen".

      and, last but not least, female (woman) is also a correct and apparently frequently used way to translate "Frau".
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      @star ​​ ​​ :3
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      • fugi@fed.amazonawaws.comF fugi@fed.amazonawaws.com
        @star @zenmaya Not if they identify as a man. If a person is a cis endo man, and gnc, they would not fall under FLINTA, strictly speaking. Whether that is the intention (of e.g. event organizers) would be a question worth asking. IMO it leads to the conclusion that FLINTA is not a very useful term to use.
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        #21
        @fugi @zenmaya hm. i think this reasoning dissatisfies me, because the reasoning that "it is very loosely defined and therefore likely not a useful term" (if that was what you were trying to say) can be applied to lots of things: "lesbian" for example. i mean, you could likely write an entire book about the discussions about the term, and where its inclusivity begins or ends. "heterosexual" is also defined extremely weirdly throughout the world, but has better definitions in queer circles. but i would not say that these terms aren't useful. we give them meaning through context and our own experiences and conversational intentions. words are just made up
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        • fugi@fed.amazonawaws.comF fugi@fed.amazonawaws.com
          @star ​​ ​​ :3
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          @fugi oh FUCK yeah you can finally see emoji reactions (if not on mobile/mona)
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          • star@fed.amazonawaws.comS star@fed.amazonawaws.com
            @fugi @zenmaya hm. i think this reasoning dissatisfies me, because the reasoning that "it is very loosely defined and therefore likely not a useful term" (if that was what you were trying to say) can be applied to lots of things: "lesbian" for example. i mean, you could likely write an entire book about the discussions about the term, and where its inclusivity begins or ends. "heterosexual" is also defined extremely weirdly throughout the world, but has better definitions in queer circles. but i would not say that these terms aren't useful. we give them meaning through context and our own experiences and conversational intentions. words are just made up
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            @star @zenmaya the problem is that there is this much potential for arguing about what is included in FLINTA or not, at all. And in reality people will just assume wildly different things, e.g. like we witnessed at Datenspuren
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            • star@fed.amazonawaws.comS star@fed.amazonawaws.com
              @fugi oh FUCK yeah you can finally see emoji reactions (if not on mobile/mona)
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              @star switched clients just for you, so I could see them ^w^
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              • fugi@fed.amazonawaws.comF fugi@fed.amazonawaws.com
                @star @zenmaya the problem is that there is this much potential for arguing about what is included in FLINTA or not, at all. And in reality people will just assume wildly different things, e.g. like we witnessed at Datenspuren
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                @fugi @zenmaya ANYGAYS i set up a mirror at codeberg.org/ava/sick-ass-poster so you can now also create PRs and yeah :3
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                • fugi@fed.amazonawaws.comF fugi@fed.amazonawaws.com
                  @star switched clients just for you, so I could see them ^w^
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                  #26
                  @star tho I would have probably missed it if you didn't say so 😕
                  none of the iOS clients seem to support it (for getting notified at least), I might have to do some frickeling
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                  • quz@tech.lgbtQ quz@tech.lgbt

                    @star

                    Petition das Ding in Mackerfreier Tag umzubenennen.

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                    @Quz @star Warum ist das als shitpost gelabelt?

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                    • specificprotagonist@tech.lgbtS specificprotagonist@tech.lgbt

                      @Quz @star Warum ist das als shitpost gelabelt?

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                      #28
                      @specificprotagonist @Quz weil es ein shitpost ist

                      ich hoffe, das hilft
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