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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

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  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

    I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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    #20

    @alexhaist I was comfortable until 14/1300, but quickly zoned out around 12/1100 unless I was *really* focusing.

    Caveat that I’m German/English bilingual with decades old linguistics studies behind me.

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    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

      This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

      In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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      #21

      @alexhaist

      This is excellent and yes, 1300 for me was when I tapped out

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      • wizardofdocs@wandering.shopW wizardofdocs@wandering.shop

        @dgold @alexhaist Wuluesfleet.
        Now I'm wondering where the f in wolf came from. A little extra efficiency of speech? A borrowing of the p from Latin lupus? Whatever it is, I'm charmed by the idea that the word wolf used to be onomatopoeia.

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        #22

        @WizardOfDocs @alexhaist

        Well, Wuluesfleet would be pronounced Wulvesfleet...

        so the plural wulves takes a singular wulv with a hard stop, which you can imagine scribes writing as WolF

        EDIT: coming to partial memory of my englishianisms - it would be singular wuluv, making wolF almost inevitable

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        • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

          @danmccullough I wish you much joy of it! I love this sort of historical linguistic stroll.

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          #23

          @alexhaist @danmccullough I'm kind of a dictionary, reference hoarder. Probably no surprise to some who follow me...

          Came across "The English Dialect Dictionary" on Archive a few years ago. It's a six volume set. Kinda nifty if you're into this sort of stuff🙂

          https://archive.org/details/englishdialectdi0000jose_y6q6/page/n7/mode/2up

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          • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

            This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

            In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

            https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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            #24

            @alexhaist Thanks for sharing this, especially since it has this great explanation at the end about u and v etc...
            As a non-native speaker I thought "Cool, 1900 is using more commas. Kinda like I'd do it in German". Then in 1800 I thought "woah, stop it with the commas please!" 🙂

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            • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

              This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

              In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

              https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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              #25

              @alexhaist

              Just reminds me how badly I did with the relevant chapter of Ulysses, and how long I had to skim before I got to anything I could read.

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              • dgold@goblin.technologyD dgold@goblin.technology

                @WizardOfDocs @alexhaist

                Well, Wuluesfleet would be pronounced Wulvesfleet...

                so the plural wulves takes a singular wulv with a hard stop, which you can imagine scribes writing as WolF

                EDIT: coming to partial memory of my englishianisms - it would be singular wuluv, making wolF almost inevitable

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                #26

                @dgold @alexhaist awuuuuuuluv

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                • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                  This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                  In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                  https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                  #27

                  @alexhaist

                  Thanks for posting this.

                  I finally got all of the 1300s. The word rewþe (reuth) was difficult. I suspected it meant compassion and that it's where our word ruthless comes from. I just looked it up and it is. My only real training in English is from reading Shakespeare and that helped.

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                  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                    @forestfjord how far back did you get? (Ish)

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                    #28

                    @alexhaist

                    1300 - easy
                    1200 - work, possible
                    1100 - work, maybe 25-30% but only in parts; enough to fake a two sentence summary
                    1000 - hard work, maybe 15-20%; enough to feel like I should be able to understand more but not enough to fake a two sentence summary

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                    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                      This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                      In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                      #29

                      @alexhaist
                      Not a native speaker but I think it helps that German is my mother tongue.

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