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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

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  • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

    This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

    In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

    https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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    #18

    @alexhaist Wow. I barely read the 1500 text 😅

    My boyfriend however, an English philologist, recognised all the things he learned at the university! 😂

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    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

      This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

      In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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      #19

      @alexhaist
      1200 is more guessing than reading.
      🧝 : "The languages of humans are many, and they change faster than a dragon flies."

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      • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

        I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.

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        #20

        @alexhaist I was comfortable until 14/1300, but quickly zoned out around 12/1100 unless I was *really* focusing.

        Caveat that I’m German/English bilingual with decades old linguistics studies behind me.

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        • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

          This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

          In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

          https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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          #21

          @alexhaist

          This is excellent and yes, 1300 for me was when I tapped out

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          • wizardofdocs@wandering.shopW wizardofdocs@wandering.shop

            @dgold @alexhaist Wuluesfleet.
            Now I'm wondering where the f in wolf came from. A little extra efficiency of speech? A borrowing of the p from Latin lupus? Whatever it is, I'm charmed by the idea that the word wolf used to be onomatopoeia.

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            @WizardOfDocs @alexhaist

            Well, Wuluesfleet would be pronounced Wulvesfleet...

            so the plural wulves takes a singular wulv with a hard stop, which you can imagine scribes writing as WolF

            EDIT: coming to partial memory of my englishianisms - it would be singular wuluv, making wolF almost inevitable

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            • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

              @danmccullough I wish you much joy of it! I love this sort of historical linguistic stroll.

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              #23

              @alexhaist @danmccullough I'm kind of a dictionary, reference hoarder. Probably no surprise to some who follow me...

              Came across "The English Dialect Dictionary" on Archive a few years ago. It's a six volume set. Kinda nifty if you're into this sort of stuff🙂

              https://archive.org/details/englishdialectdi0000jose_y6q6/page/n7/mode/2up

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              • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                #24

                @alexhaist Thanks for sharing this, especially since it has this great explanation at the end about u and v etc...
                As a non-native speaker I thought "Cool, 1900 is using more commas. Kinda like I'd do it in German". Then in 1800 I thought "woah, stop it with the commas please!" 🙂

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                • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                  This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                  In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                  https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                  #25

                  @alexhaist

                  Just reminds me how badly I did with the relevant chapter of Ulysses, and how long I had to skim before I got to anything I could read.

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                  • dgold@goblin.technologyD dgold@goblin.technology

                    @WizardOfDocs @alexhaist

                    Well, Wuluesfleet would be pronounced Wulvesfleet...

                    so the plural wulves takes a singular wulv with a hard stop, which you can imagine scribes writing as WolF

                    EDIT: coming to partial memory of my englishianisms - it would be singular wuluv, making wolF almost inevitable

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                    #26

                    @dgold @alexhaist awuuuuuuluv

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                    • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                      This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                      In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                      #27

                      @alexhaist

                      Thanks for posting this.

                      I finally got all of the 1300s. The word rewþe (reuth) was difficult. I suspected it meant compassion and that it's where our word ruthless comes from. I just looked it up and it is. My only real training in English is from reading Shakespeare and that helped.

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                      • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                        @forestfjord how far back did you get? (Ish)

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                        #28

                        @alexhaist

                        1300 - easy
                        1200 - work, possible
                        1100 - work, maybe 25-30% but only in parts; enough to fake a two sentence summary
                        1000 - hard work, maybe 15-20%; enough to feel like I should be able to understand more but not enough to fake a two sentence summary

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                        • alexhaist@wandering.shopA alexhaist@wandering.shop

                          This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?

                          In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.

                          https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

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                          #29

                          @alexhaist
                          Not a native speaker but I think it helps that German is my mother tongue.

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