This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?
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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?
In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english
@alexhaist I'm fine as far as 1300, but further back is opaque. I find that those last couple of centuries, 1300 and 1400, become vastly more accessible if (a) written in modern orthography and (b) read aloud.
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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?
In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english
@alexhaist Wow. I barely read the 1500 text
My boyfriend however, an English philologist, recognised all the things he learned at the university!
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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?
In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english
@alexhaist
1200 is more guessing than reading.
🧝 : "The languages of humans are many, and they change faster than a dragon flies." -
I can read back to about 1400, but I used to be able to puzzle through middle English in my 20s.
@alexhaist I was comfortable until 14/1300, but quickly zoned out around 12/1100 unless I was *really* focusing.
Caveat that I’m German/English bilingual with decades old linguistics studies behind me.
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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?
In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english
This is excellent and yes, 1300 for me was when I tapped out
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@dgold @alexhaist Wuluesfleet.
Now I'm wondering where the f in wolf came from. A little extra efficiency of speech? A borrowing of the p from Latin lupus? Whatever it is, I'm charmed by the idea that the word wolf used to be onomatopoeia.Well, Wuluesfleet would be pronounced Wulvesfleet...
so the plural wulves takes a singular wulv with a hard stop, which you can imagine scribes writing as WolF
EDIT: coming to partial memory of my englishianisms - it would be singular wuluv, making wolF almost inevitable
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@danmccullough I wish you much joy of it! I love this sort of historical linguistic stroll.
@alexhaist @danmccullough I'm kind of a dictionary, reference hoarder. Probably no surprise to some who follow me...
Came across "The English Dialect Dictionary" on Archive a few years ago. It's a six volume set. Kinda nifty if you're into this sort of stuff
https://archive.org/details/englishdialectdi0000jose_y6q6/page/n7/mode/2up
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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?
In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english
@alexhaist Thanks for sharing this, especially since it has this great explanation at the end about u and v etc...
As a non-native speaker I thought "Cool, 1900 is using more commas. Kinda like I'd do it in German". Then in 1800 I thought "woah, stop it with the commas please!" -
This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?
In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english
Just reminds me how badly I did with the relevant chapter of Ulysses, and how long I had to skim before I got to anything I could read.
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Well, Wuluesfleet would be pronounced Wulvesfleet...
so the plural wulves takes a singular wulv with a hard stop, which you can imagine scribes writing as WolF
EDIT: coming to partial memory of my englishianisms - it would be singular wuluv, making wolF almost inevitable
@dgold @alexhaist awuuuuuuluv
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This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?
In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english
Thanks for posting this.
I finally got all of the 1300s. The word rewþe (reuth) was difficult. I suspected it meant compassion and that it's where our word ruthless comes from. I just looked it up and it is. My only real training in English is from reading Shakespeare and that helped.
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@forestfjord how far back did you get? (Ish)
1300 - easy
1200 - work, possible
1100 - work, maybe 25-30% but only in parts; enough to fake a two sentence summary
1000 - hard work, maybe 15-20%; enough to feel like I should be able to understand more but not enough to fake a two sentence summary -
This is delightful fun: how far back in time can you understand English?
In a fictional travel blog, the author writes about their experience in a small town, jumping back 100 years of English each entry.
https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english
@alexhaist
Not a native speaker but I think it helps that German is my mother tongue. -
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