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Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

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  • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

    Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

    We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

    If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

    #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

    snow@snowfan.itS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #36

    @leavex Certainly not Italy, unfortunately.🤦‍♂️

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    • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

      @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

      ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @Seraina @leavex @viennawriter

      Last year sometime or maybe even in 2024 BBC labs posted an article on their experience in mastodon.

      The short form of it was that even with a smaller follow footprint, engagement was much higher and moderation efforts were considerably less stressful.

      I know that DW also started experimenting with mastodon specifically.

      I have not seen any discussion of their experience though.

      Size is not everything. It seems very much that real engagement is.

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      • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

        RE: https://social.tchncs.de/@Seraina/116047818934778600

        Indeed, reach is an issue.

        But reach is a collective problem, not an individual one.

        If all politicians stopped using X for official communication and moved to a Mastodon instance, media outlets and citizens would follow.

        This requires an orchestrated effort, not a few isolated accounts.

        #Politics #X #Journalism

        ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #38

        @leavex

        There is one very simple way to advantage something like the federal verse or any alternative.

        1) Plant a flag on the alternative
        2) post there first by several hours
        3) when you post on the other platforms, mention that you post on the alternative first

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        • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

          @Seraina @leavex @viennawriter

          Last year sometime or maybe even in 2024 BBC labs posted an article on their experience in mastodon.

          The short form of it was that even with a smaller follow footprint, engagement was much higher and moderation efforts were considerably less stressful.

          I know that DW also started experimenting with mastodon specifically.

          I have not seen any discussion of their experience though.

          Size is not everything. It seems very much that real engagement is.

          leavex@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #39

          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Seraina @viennawriter I read the experiment of @dw_innovation and it was quite positive.

          I've also seen a presentation about the @tagesschau account here, with a similar positive feedback.

          I will seach for the BBC article.

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          • bartknubben@mastodon.nlB bartknubben@mastodon.nl

            @harld @leavex
            👍 On the about page of the Mastodon instance of the Dutch government is a list of other government instances: https://social.overheid.nl/about#:~:text=5.%20Zijn%20er,https://social.edps.europa.eu.

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            #40

            @bartknubben @leavex

            I was not aware of that page. Thanks.

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            • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

              @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Seraina @viennawriter I read the experiment of @dw_innovation and it was quite positive.

              I've also seen a presentation about the @tagesschau account here, with a similar positive feedback.

              I will seach for the BBC article.

              ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #41

              @leavex @Seraina @viennawriter @dw_innovation @tagesschau

              Gesagt, gedan.. if I am not butchering German too much these days

              https://www.bbc.com/rd/blog/2023-07-mastodon-distributed-decentralised-fediverse-activitypub

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              • ton@m.tzyl.euT ton@m.tzyl.eu

                @leavex Netherlands, https://social.overheid.nl/directory part of the overheid.nl (gov.nl) domain. Since last November it is out of pilot status, and an official shared national service offered to all Dutch public sector entities. https://www.digitaleoverheid.nl/overzicht-van-alle-onderwerpen/mastodon-overheid/ The final part of your sentence, 'away from X' is not true or decided though. Likely @beheerder will be able to say more.

                bartknubben@mastodon.nlB This user is from outside of this forum
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                #42

                @ton @leavex @beheerder

                Probably @communitymanager is in the best position to answer the question. The team behind it is responsible for functional management and also works on policy relating to the instance.

                Btw the NL gov instance is also reachable via https://social.gov.nl 🙂

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                • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                  Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                  We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                  If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                  #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                  everton137@social.vivaldi.netE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #43

                  @leavex it will be funny if the answer is: CANADA! 🤣

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                  • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                    Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                    We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                    If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                    #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                    schnedan@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #44

                    @leavex none of Europe... mybee somewhere in africa, some pacific island,...

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                    • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                      Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                      We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                      If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                      #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                      scriptfanix@maly.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #45

                      @leavex Not Ireland: this is where GAFAMs "pay their taxes"

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                      • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                        Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                        We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                        If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                        #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                        butterflyoffire@mstdn.frB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #46

                        @leavex May be Austria.

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                        • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                          Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                          We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                          If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                          #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                          goebelmasse@det.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #47

                          @leavex I place my bet on the Netherlands. Germany? Never. Germany only changes things when it comes to pumping money into corruption. Germany would rather do one own thing, expensive, designed by Siemens and T-Systems, compatible with the Fediverse only after the fourth expansion stage in eight years, and then with annoying failures and errors.

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                          • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                            Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                            We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                            If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                            #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                            soulsource@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #48

                            @leavex I don't know which one might be the first, but I am willing to bet that it is NOT going to be Austria.

                            The encyclopaedia entry for "IT-illiterate" is just a picture of the Austrian parliament.

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                            • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                              Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                              We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                              If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                              #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                              spirit_bear@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #49

                              @leavex sadly this app is completely dumb. Its not even able to sort content in a chronological order.

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                              • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                                Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                                We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                                If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                                #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                                jorg@climatejustice.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #50

                                @leavex
                                Swedish public institutions: Mastowhat?

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                                • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                  @leavex @Seraina @viennawriter @dw_innovation @tagesschau

                                  Gesagt, gedan.. if I am not butchering German too much these days

                                  https://www.bbc.com/rd/blog/2023-07-mastodon-distributed-decentralised-fediverse-activitypub

                                  spacemagick@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #51

                                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell @leavex @Seraina @viennawriter @dw_innovation @tagesschau
                                  They don't seem to have said much lately. They're last toot was in September last year.
                                  #BBC #Mastodon

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                                  • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                                    @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

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                                    #52

                                    @Seraina @leavex @viennawriter it's better to have 3,500 actual people following you than 3.5 million spambots shouting Nazi slogans and AI-generating CSAM but hey I guess they have a different definition of "reach" than I do.

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                                    • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                                      @ignacyy @oaj we agree.

                                      szymon@social.josko.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #53

                                      @leavex @ignacyy @oaj and it’s the same people who previously criticised PiS party for “giving Americans a free blowjob”

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                                      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                        @leavex @Seraina @viennawriter @dw_innovation @tagesschau

                                        Gesagt, gedan.. if I am not butchering German too much these days

                                        https://www.bbc.com/rd/blog/2023-07-mastodon-distributed-decentralised-fediverse-activitypub

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                                        #54

                                        @leavex @Seraina @viennawriter @dw_innovation @tagesschau @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                                        Might be worthwhile to check in with @BBCRD if this is still an ongoing project, given the increasing focus on finding alternatives to the likes of X

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                                        • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                                          Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                                          We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                                          If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                                          #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                                          trzyglow@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #55

                                          @leavex not germany, the german gov is still too cozy with trump, musk etc. (especially the chancellor, who is practically infatuated with trump)

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