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Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

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  • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

    @grob "for sure".

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    #22

    @leavex chapeau

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    • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

      @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

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      #23

      RE: https://social.tchncs.de/@Seraina/116047818934778600

      Indeed, reach is an issue.

      But reach is a collective problem, not an individual one.

      If all politicians stopped using X for official communication and moved to a Mastodon instance, media outlets and citizens would follow.

      This requires an orchestrated effort, not a few isolated accounts.

      #Politics #X #Journalism

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      • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

        @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

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        #24

        @Seraina @leavex That might be. I'd emphasize the point that especially public institutions do have a responsibility towards their citizens. People believed in the tales of advertisement agencies for the past 20 years and the belief in "reach" runs deep. Also the belief in the tale "you have to go where your target group is". Here is their target group, too. The part that's actually interested in direct human discussion, democracy and real community. Maybe they might have a look at +1 of #DiDay

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        • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

          Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

          We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

          If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

          #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

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          #25

          @leavex@mastodon.social
          I guess they use Discord or W before even thinking about the Fediverse.

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          • harld@masto.aiH harld@masto.ai

            @leavex The Dutch?

            https://social.overheid.nl/about

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            #26

            @harld @leavex
            👍 On the about page of the Mastodon instance of the Dutch government is a list of other government instances: https://social.overheid.nl/about#:~:text=5.%20Zijn%20er,https://social.edps.europa.eu.

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            • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

              Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

              We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

              If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

              #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

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              #27

              @leavex Austria will be the last ...

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              • oaj@mastodon.com.plO oaj@mastodon.com.pl

                @leavex: I am afraid to say that this is not about Poland. I have asked the central government representatives (i.e. ministries etc.) and they said they are not willing to leave X.

                https://kontrabanda.net/r/polish-state-authorities-x-twitter-presence-grok-csam/

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                #28

                @oaj @leavex To keep using Twitter after all the Nazi, racist and hate speech produced there by owner and main "creator" is simply disgusting

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                • ignacyy@mastodon.socialI ignacyy@mastodon.social

                  @oaj @leavex To keep using Twitter after all the Nazi, racist and hate speech produced there by owner and main "creator" is simply disgusting

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                  #29

                  @ignacyy: ”Disgusting” is a huge understatement.

                  @leavex

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                  • viennawriter@literatur.socialV viennawriter@literatur.social

                    @Seraina @leavex That might be. I'd emphasize the point that especially public institutions do have a responsibility towards their citizens. People believed in the tales of advertisement agencies for the past 20 years and the belief in "reach" runs deep. Also the belief in the tale "you have to go where your target group is". Here is their target group, too. The part that's actually interested in direct human discussion, democracy and real community. Maybe they might have a look at +1 of #DiDay

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                    #30

                    @viennawriter @Seraina I think it's worth take a look at these numbers: https://machteburch.social/@tomkalei/116039809227944622

                    The whole article from @netzpolitik_feed raises several questions about reach on X.

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                    • ignacyy@mastodon.socialI ignacyy@mastodon.social

                      @oaj @leavex To keep using Twitter after all the Nazi, racist and hate speech produced there by owner and main "creator" is simply disgusting

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                      #31

                      @ignacyy @oaj we agree.

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                      • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                        @viennawriter @Seraina I think it's worth take a look at these numbers: https://machteburch.social/@tomkalei/116039809227944622

                        The whole article from @netzpolitik_feed raises several questions about reach on X.

                        seraina@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #32

                        @viennawriter @netzpolitik_feed @leavex it's true. X became a 110% of a No Go. Actually I wouldn't know anyone of my (private) acquaintances who still uses it. I really wonder what all the Officials are still doing there.

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                        • iarfhlaitho@mastodon.ieI iarfhlaitho@mastodon.ie

                          @Seraina sorry to hear that 😕

                          if we make anything big, it will be a big mess 😄

                          I changed my BlueSky handle to my full mastodon address to promote the cause. I don’t have much of a following though.

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                          #33

                          @IarfhlaithO I like your activism 😄

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                          • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                            @viennawriter @netzpolitik_feed @leavex it's true. X became a 110% of a No Go. Actually I wouldn't know anyone of my (private) acquaintances who still uses it. I really wonder what all the Officials are still doing there.

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                            #34

                            @Seraina @viennawriter we question this since a long time. 🫠

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                            • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                              @Timo_Micro Interesting. Are you aware of any institutional Mastodon instances in Finland?

                              #Finland

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                              #35

                              @leavex
                              As a Finn I am aware of none. However govt. organizations here can quite freely organize their social media presence the way they see fit and some have left X already.

                              The same goes with municipalities. For example my hometown has an official account at mastodon.social.

                              I don't foresee however social media channels becoming a matter of political debate anytime soon since there's been no central policy around the issue thus far.
                              @Timo_Micro

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                              • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                                Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                                We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                                If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                                #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

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                                #36

                                @leavex Certainly not Italy, unfortunately.🤦‍♂️

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                                • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                                  @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

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                                  #37

                                  @Seraina @leavex @viennawriter

                                  Last year sometime or maybe even in 2024 BBC labs posted an article on their experience in mastodon.

                                  The short form of it was that even with a smaller follow footprint, engagement was much higher and moderation efforts were considerably less stressful.

                                  I know that DW also started experimenting with mastodon specifically.

                                  I have not seen any discussion of their experience though.

                                  Size is not everything. It seems very much that real engagement is.

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                                  • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                                    RE: https://social.tchncs.de/@Seraina/116047818934778600

                                    Indeed, reach is an issue.

                                    But reach is a collective problem, not an individual one.

                                    If all politicians stopped using X for official communication and moved to a Mastodon instance, media outlets and citizens would follow.

                                    This requires an orchestrated effort, not a few isolated accounts.

                                    #Politics #X #Journalism

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                                    #38

                                    @leavex

                                    There is one very simple way to advantage something like the federal verse or any alternative.

                                    1) Plant a flag on the alternative
                                    2) post there first by several hours
                                    3) when you post on the other platforms, mention that you post on the alternative first

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                                    • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                      @Seraina @leavex @viennawriter

                                      Last year sometime or maybe even in 2024 BBC labs posted an article on their experience in mastodon.

                                      The short form of it was that even with a smaller follow footprint, engagement was much higher and moderation efforts were considerably less stressful.

                                      I know that DW also started experimenting with mastodon specifically.

                                      I have not seen any discussion of their experience though.

                                      Size is not everything. It seems very much that real engagement is.

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                                      #39

                                      @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Seraina @viennawriter I read the experiment of @dw_innovation and it was quite positive.

                                      I've also seen a presentation about the @tagesschau account here, with a similar positive feedback.

                                      I will seach for the BBC article.

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                                      • bartknubben@mastodon.nlB bartknubben@mastodon.nl

                                        @harld @leavex
                                        👍 On the about page of the Mastodon instance of the Dutch government is a list of other government instances: https://social.overheid.nl/about#:~:text=5.%20Zijn%20er,https://social.edps.europa.eu.

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                                        #40

                                        @bartknubben @leavex

                                        I was not aware of that page. Thanks.

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                                        • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Seraina @viennawriter I read the experiment of @dw_innovation and it was quite positive.

                                          I've also seen a presentation about the @tagesschau account here, with a similar positive feedback.

                                          I will seach for the BBC article.

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                                          #41

                                          @leavex @Seraina @viennawriter @dw_innovation @tagesschau

                                          Gesagt, gedan.. if I am not butchering German too much these days

                                          https://www.bbc.com/rd/blog/2023-07-mastodon-distributed-decentralised-fediverse-activitypub

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