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Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

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  • grob@mstdn.socialG grob@mstdn.social

    @leavex can I answer with a picture?

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    #13

    @grob "for sure".

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    • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

      @Johns_priv have you tried to contact some journalist that covers this issues?

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      #14

      @leavex They too have an X account.
      I don't think there's anyone relevant in Spain that hasn't.
      Pedro Sánchez with all his posturing probably has one as well.

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      • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

        Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

        We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

        If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

        #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

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        #15

        @leavex The Dutch?

        https://social.overheid.nl/about

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        • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

          @leavex unfortunately not Switzerland. They have done a trial on Mastodon, but the reach was apparently not satisfying. 😑

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          #16

          @Seraina 💔 I hope they don’t give up. Maybe some promotion can help 🤷

          Here in Ireland, we are usually slow to adopt new tech. We’ve made some massive blunders in the past (eg e-voting machines). Also, our government is beholden to big tech so I wonder if that will also impede us. They are neoliberal so they will prefer to have a hefty corporation take the place of more egalitarian options.

          Broader minds are gradually emerging though 🤞

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          • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

            @leavex unfortunately not Switzerland. They have done a trial on Mastodon, but the reach was apparently not satisfying. 😑

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            #17

            @Seraina @leavex May I hand you some discussion help for next time?
            https://www.viennawriter.net/blog/social-media-grundsaetze-mythos-reichweite/
            https://www.viennawriter.net/blog/social-media-principles-the-myth-of-reach-en/

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            • iarfhlaitho@mastodon.ieI iarfhlaitho@mastodon.ie

              @Seraina 💔 I hope they don’t give up. Maybe some promotion can help 🤷

              Here in Ireland, we are usually slow to adopt new tech. We’ve made some massive blunders in the past (eg e-voting machines). Also, our government is beholden to big tech so I wonder if that will also impede us. They are neoliberal so they will prefer to have a hefty corporation take the place of more egalitarian options.

              Broader minds are gradually emerging though 🤞

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              #18

              @IarfhlaithO Unfortunately the hype and press news about Mastodon really decreased in the past 2 years. Bluesky clearly became more popular than Mastodon but even bluesky is still a niche.
              Somehow that whole Mastodon network thing might seem nerdy, if not scary to people. To be honest, I feel like this is never going to be a big thing for the crowds, even if I wish it was. 😔

              Fingers crossed, that Ireland can make it a big thing anyway. 🙂

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              • viennawriter@literatur.socialV viennawriter@literatur.social

                @Seraina @leavex May I hand you some discussion help for next time?
                https://www.viennawriter.net/blog/social-media-grundsaetze-mythos-reichweite/
                https://www.viennawriter.net/blog/social-media-principles-the-myth-of-reach-en/

                seraina@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #19

                @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

                leavex@mastodon.socialL viennawriter@literatur.socialV ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD 4 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                • johns_priv@mastodon.socialJ johns_priv@mastodon.social

                  @leavex They too have an X account.
                  I don't think there's anyone relevant in Spain that hasn't.
                  Pedro Sánchez with all his posturing probably has one as well.

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                  #20

                  @Johns_priv I see https://gram.social/p/leavex/924009082908185334

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                  • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                    @IarfhlaithO Unfortunately the hype and press news about Mastodon really decreased in the past 2 years. Bluesky clearly became more popular than Mastodon but even bluesky is still a niche.
                    Somehow that whole Mastodon network thing might seem nerdy, if not scary to people. To be honest, I feel like this is never going to be a big thing for the crowds, even if I wish it was. 😔

                    Fingers crossed, that Ireland can make it a big thing anyway. 🙂

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                    #21

                    @Seraina sorry to hear that 😕

                    if we make anything big, it will be a big mess 😄

                    I changed my BlueSky handle to my full mastodon address to promote the cause. I don’t have much of a following though.

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                    • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                      @grob "for sure".

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                      #22

                      @leavex chapeau

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                      • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                        @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

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                        #23

                        RE: https://social.tchncs.de/@Seraina/116047818934778600

                        Indeed, reach is an issue.

                        But reach is a collective problem, not an individual one.

                        If all politicians stopped using X for official communication and moved to a Mastodon instance, media outlets and citizens would follow.

                        This requires an orchestrated effort, not a few isolated accounts.

                        #Politics #X #Journalism

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                        • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                          @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

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                          #24

                          @Seraina @leavex That might be. I'd emphasize the point that especially public institutions do have a responsibility towards their citizens. People believed in the tales of advertisement agencies for the past 20 years and the belief in "reach" runs deep. Also the belief in the tale "you have to go where your target group is". Here is their target group, too. The part that's actually interested in direct human discussion, democracy and real community. Maybe they might have a look at +1 of #DiDay

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                          • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                            Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                            We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                            If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                            #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

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                            #25

                            @leavex@mastodon.social
                            I guess they use Discord or W before even thinking about the Fediverse.

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                            • harld@masto.aiH harld@masto.ai

                              @leavex The Dutch?

                              https://social.overheid.nl/about

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                              #26

                              @harld @leavex
                              👍 On the about page of the Mastodon instance of the Dutch government is a list of other government instances: https://social.overheid.nl/about#:~:text=5.%20Zijn%20er,https://social.edps.europa.eu.

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                              • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                                Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                                We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                                If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                                #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

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                                #27

                                @leavex Austria will be the last ...

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                                • oaj@mastodon.com.plO oaj@mastodon.com.pl

                                  @leavex: I am afraid to say that this is not about Poland. I have asked the central government representatives (i.e. ministries etc.) and they said they are not willing to leave X.

                                  https://kontrabanda.net/r/polish-state-authorities-x-twitter-presence-grok-csam/

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                                  #28

                                  @oaj @leavex To keep using Twitter after all the Nazi, racist and hate speech produced there by owner and main "creator" is simply disgusting

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                                  • ignacyy@mastodon.socialI ignacyy@mastodon.social

                                    @oaj @leavex To keep using Twitter after all the Nazi, racist and hate speech produced there by owner and main "creator" is simply disgusting

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                                    #29

                                    @ignacyy: ”Disgusting” is a huge understatement.

                                    @leavex

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                                    • viennawriter@literatur.socialV viennawriter@literatur.social

                                      @Seraina @leavex That might be. I'd emphasize the point that especially public institutions do have a responsibility towards their citizens. People believed in the tales of advertisement agencies for the past 20 years and the belief in "reach" runs deep. Also the belief in the tale "you have to go where your target group is". Here is their target group, too. The part that's actually interested in direct human discussion, democracy and real community. Maybe they might have a look at +1 of #DiDay

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                                      #30

                                      @viennawriter @Seraina I think it's worth take a look at these numbers: https://machteburch.social/@tomkalei/116039809227944622

                                      The whole article from @netzpolitik_feed raises several questions about reach on X.

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                                      • ignacyy@mastodon.socialI ignacyy@mastodon.social

                                        @oaj @leavex To keep using Twitter after all the Nazi, racist and hate speech produced there by owner and main "creator" is simply disgusting

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                                        #31

                                        @ignacyy @oaj we agree.

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                                        • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                                          @viennawriter @Seraina I think it's worth take a look at these numbers: https://machteburch.social/@tomkalei/116039809227944622

                                          The whole article from @netzpolitik_feed raises several questions about reach on X.

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                                          #32

                                          @viennawriter @netzpolitik_feed @leavex it's true. X became a 110% of a No Go. Actually I wouldn't know anyone of my (private) acquaintances who still uses it. I really wonder what all the Officials are still doing there.

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