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Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

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  • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

    Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

    We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

    If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

    #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

    seraina@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
    seraina@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @leavex unfortunately not Switzerland. They have done a trial on Mastodon, but the reach was apparently not satisfying. 😑

    iarfhlaitho@mastodon.ieI viennawriter@literatur.socialV humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

      Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

      We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

      If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

      #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

      timo_micro@scicomm.xyzT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #6

      @leavex Finland seems to be doing fairly well in developing their own infrastructure. They even have their own Finish LLM, which, although a horrible decision as it's still an LLM, at least shows willingness to invest and digital awareness about how the US trained models were not suitable.

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      • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

        Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

        We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

        If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

        #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

        raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #7

        @leavex
        Irish Gov too much in thrall to USA.

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        • timo_micro@scicomm.xyzT timo_micro@scicomm.xyz

          @leavex Finland seems to be doing fairly well in developing their own infrastructure. They even have their own Finish LLM, which, although a horrible decision as it's still an LLM, at least shows willingness to invest and digital awareness about how the US trained models were not suitable.

          leavex@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @Timo_Micro Interesting. Are you aware of any institutional Mastodon instances in Finland?

          #Finland

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          • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

            Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

            We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

            If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

            #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

            oaj@mastodon.com.plO This user is from outside of this forum
            oaj@mastodon.com.plO This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            @leavex: I am afraid to say that this is not about Poland. I have asked the central government representatives (i.e. ministries etc.) and they said they are not willing to leave X.

            https://kontrabanda.net/r/polish-state-authorities-x-twitter-presence-grok-csam/

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            • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

              Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

              We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

              If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

              #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

              grob@mstdn.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @leavex can I answer with a picture?

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              • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                johns_priv@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #11

                @leavex I keep sending mails to all Spanish political parties, none does shit and only one answers with a standard text: "we will forward your query to the communications department"

                There's only two without presence on X.

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                • johns_priv@mastodon.socialJ johns_priv@mastodon.social

                  @leavex I keep sending mails to all Spanish political parties, none does shit and only one answers with a standard text: "we will forward your query to the communications department"

                  There's only two without presence on X.

                  leavex@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #12

                  @Johns_priv have you tried to contact some journalist that covers this issues?

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                  • grob@mstdn.socialG grob@mstdn.social

                    @leavex can I answer with a picture?

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                    #13

                    @grob "for sure".

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                    • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                      @Johns_priv have you tried to contact some journalist that covers this issues?

                      johns_priv@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #14

                      @leavex They too have an X account.
                      I don't think there's anyone relevant in Spain that hasn't.
                      Pedro Sánchez with all his posturing probably has one as well.

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                      • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                        Which EU country will be the first to officially move its public institutions to a national Mastodon instance, bringing political debate to the Fediverse and away from disinformation platforms like X?

                        We know some national-level instances already exist (e.g. in Germany). The question is: who will make it a political decision, not just a technical one?

                        If you think of another country, add it in the comments 👇

                        #LeaveX #EU #Democracy #Mastodon #Fediverse

                        harld@masto.aiH This user is from outside of this forum
                        harld@masto.aiH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #15

                        @leavex The Dutch?

                        https://social.overheid.nl/about

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                        • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                          @leavex unfortunately not Switzerland. They have done a trial on Mastodon, but the reach was apparently not satisfying. 😑

                          iarfhlaitho@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #16

                          @Seraina 💔 I hope they don’t give up. Maybe some promotion can help 🤷

                          Here in Ireland, we are usually slow to adopt new tech. We’ve made some massive blunders in the past (eg e-voting machines). Also, our government is beholden to big tech so I wonder if that will also impede us. They are neoliberal so they will prefer to have a hefty corporation take the place of more egalitarian options.

                          Broader minds are gradually emerging though 🤞

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                          • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                            @leavex unfortunately not Switzerland. They have done a trial on Mastodon, but the reach was apparently not satisfying. 😑

                            viennawriter@literatur.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #17

                            @Seraina @leavex May I hand you some discussion help for next time?
                            https://www.viennawriter.net/blog/social-media-grundsaetze-mythos-reichweite/
                            https://www.viennawriter.net/blog/social-media-principles-the-myth-of-reach-en/

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                            • iarfhlaitho@mastodon.ieI iarfhlaitho@mastodon.ie

                              @Seraina 💔 I hope they don’t give up. Maybe some promotion can help 🤷

                              Here in Ireland, we are usually slow to adopt new tech. We’ve made some massive blunders in the past (eg e-voting machines). Also, our government is beholden to big tech so I wonder if that will also impede us. They are neoliberal so they will prefer to have a hefty corporation take the place of more egalitarian options.

                              Broader minds are gradually emerging though 🤞

                              seraina@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #18

                              @IarfhlaithO Unfortunately the hype and press news about Mastodon really decreased in the past 2 years. Bluesky clearly became more popular than Mastodon but even bluesky is still a niche.
                              Somehow that whole Mastodon network thing might seem nerdy, if not scary to people. To be honest, I feel like this is never going to be a big thing for the crowds, even if I wish it was. 😔

                              Fingers crossed, that Ireland can make it a big thing anyway. 🙂

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                              • viennawriter@literatur.socialV viennawriter@literatur.social

                                @Seraina @leavex May I hand you some discussion help for next time?
                                https://www.viennawriter.net/blog/social-media-grundsaetze-mythos-reichweite/
                                https://www.viennawriter.net/blog/social-media-principles-the-myth-of-reach-en/

                                seraina@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #19

                                @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

                                leavex@mastodon.socialL viennawriter@literatur.socialV ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG dresstokilt@mastodon.socialD 4 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                                • johns_priv@mastodon.socialJ johns_priv@mastodon.social

                                  @leavex They too have an X account.
                                  I don't think there's anyone relevant in Spain that hasn't.
                                  Pedro Sánchez with all his posturing probably has one as well.

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                                  #20

                                  @Johns_priv I see https://gram.social/p/leavex/924009082908185334

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                                  • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                                    @IarfhlaithO Unfortunately the hype and press news about Mastodon really decreased in the past 2 years. Bluesky clearly became more popular than Mastodon but even bluesky is still a niche.
                                    Somehow that whole Mastodon network thing might seem nerdy, if not scary to people. To be honest, I feel like this is never going to be a big thing for the crowds, even if I wish it was. 😔

                                    Fingers crossed, that Ireland can make it a big thing anyway. 🙂

                                    iarfhlaitho@mastodon.ieI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #21

                                    @Seraina sorry to hear that 😕

                                    if we make anything big, it will be a big mess 😄

                                    I changed my BlueSky handle to my full mastodon address to promote the cause. I don’t have much of a following though.

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                                    • leavex@mastodon.socialL leavex@mastodon.social

                                      @grob "for sure".

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                                      #22

                                      @leavex chapeau

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                                      • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                                        @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

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                                        #23

                                        RE: https://social.tchncs.de/@Seraina/116047818934778600

                                        Indeed, reach is an issue.

                                        But reach is a collective problem, not an individual one.

                                        If all politicians stopped using X for official communication and moved to a Mastodon instance, media outlets and citizens would follow.

                                        This requires an orchestrated effort, not a few isolated accounts.

                                        #Politics #X #Journalism

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                                        • seraina@social.tchncs.deS seraina@social.tchncs.de

                                          @leavex @viennawriter I see the point, but 6 accounts from the official Swiss government instance had 3500 followers together. So to be honest, yes, reach is not equal to reach, but it is a really significant difference, even if the "reach quality" on Mastodon is much higher..

                                          viennawriter@literatur.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #24

                                          @Seraina @leavex That might be. I'd emphasize the point that especially public institutions do have a responsibility towards their citizens. People believed in the tales of advertisement agencies for the past 20 years and the belief in "reach" runs deep. Also the belief in the tale "you have to go where your target group is". Here is their target group, too. The part that's actually interested in direct human discussion, democracy and real community. Maybe they might have a look at +1 of #DiDay

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