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Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    @benroyce worth mentioning your Neil Postman connection too Ben for the extra cred 😉

    The LinkedIn profile of that French journalist is really alarming because he's been a teacher of journalism at La Sorbonne and has published several books on tech. He's a radio producer and host. It's shocking that he would share such blatant lies. Shocking I tell you!

    He even has a Wikipedia page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Saltiel

    @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

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    #45

    @_elena @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill

    Yup. NYU Media Ecology track Master of Arts grad here, Neil Postman was my thesis advisor

    (now called the Media, Culture, and Communication dept, I'm old)

    and François Saltiel needs to learn a little thing called integrity

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @laxsill @_elena

      oof

      thanks for the info

      we need nonprofit alternatives to journalism, badly

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      #46

      @benroyce @NatureMC @aaronmccollum @_elena i love print media, I've been on the board of several small ones and written for a bunch, but that only makes me more critical when they fuck up

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

        Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

        In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

        Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

        You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

        "Journalism" today

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        #47

        Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

        But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

        Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

        I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

        defred@social.bim.landD nhoizey@mamot.frN phillycodehound@indieweb.socialP tk@social.apreslanu.itT 64bithero@mstdn.games6 6 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

          But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

          Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

          I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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          #48

          @_elena @Gargron @Mastodon don't trust french public radio

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

            But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

            Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

            I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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            #49

            @_elena there is already some discussion on LinkedIn: https://mastodon.social/@STPo/115978637442407795

            @Gargron @Mastodon

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

              But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

              Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

              I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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              #50

              @_elena @Gargron @Mastodon That's insane. You should!

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                #51

                @_elena @gargron @Mastodon there is a right call "droit de réponse" that forces media to publish (but not necessarily broadcast) additional facts or versions. also the convention is to ask for comment on quotes and facts and precise the person didn't answer at time of publication (and courtesy is to let a reasonable amount of time for the person to answer).

                https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_de_r%C3%A9ponse

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                • tk@social.apreslanu.itT tk@social.apreslanu.it

                  @_elena @gargron @Mastodon there is a right call "droit de réponse" that forces media to publish (but not necessarily broadcast) additional facts or versions. also the convention is to ask for comment on quotes and facts and precise the person didn't answer at time of publication (and courtesy is to let a reasonable amount of time for the person to answer).

                  https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_de_r%C3%A9ponse

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                  #52

                  @_elena @gargron @Mastodon I checked with a journalist next to me and they have to broadcast the "droit de réponse" at the same scale as the initial message, like at the end of the next podcast. I don't know if it was aired.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                    But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                    Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                    I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                    #53

                    @_elena @Gargron @Mastodon no no no @Gargron and John Mastodon have been have a quarrel for years. Something about John kept eating all of the sandwiches in the fridge despite the fact @Gargron put him name on them.

                    He just stopped putting his food on the Mastodon office fridge because of certain behaviors.

                    That story always gets twisted in its re-telling

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                      Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                      In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                      Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                      You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                      "Journalism" today

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                      #54

                      @_elena @Gargron

                      This would have been the kind of story covered by "the Media Show" on BBCRadio4 when it wasn't just celebrity gossip and in-house promotion but the acknowledgement of the existence of the fediverse and activity protocols by the BBC is extremely low. They (presenters) mention TruthSocial, BlueSky and Threads a lot more than Mastodon or the tech that they are based on.

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        Update: Radio France removed the last paragraph in the piece that claimed " @Gargron had quit his own social network [Mastodon] because he was fed up the behavior of certain users."

                        But this preposterous lie is still in their radio broadcast. The clip has been up for 10 HOURS now.

                        Maybe @Mastodon could use this as leverage to set the record straight and get some exposure with French listeners.

                        I'm this close to getting my LinkedIn account out of hibernation to write to Radio France about it

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                        #55

                        @_elena also, I noticed #Monnet advertised #WSocial (proposing itself as an alternative to Instagram and WSocial as an 'european' alternative to X) 😖

                        @Gargron @Mastodon

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          RE: https://mamot.fr/@imacrea/115977976198245094

                          Current status: fuming with rage at the SHEER INEPTITUDE of the French press in covering W Social and Mastodon.

                          In the article linked below "journalist" François Saltiel wrote that @Gargron "quit his own network [Mastodon] because he was fed up with the behavior of certain users."

                          Eugen referred to deleting his bridge to Bluesky, not quitting Mastodon FFS.

                          You should know Mr. Saltier simply rehashed W Social's press release and failed to mention it is a fork of Bluesky...

                          "Journalism" today

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                          #56

                          @_elena @Gargron Ineptitude or ill-intent. Hard to tell. The French press has a history of not caring about facts if it fits their narrative when talking about something they consider fringe (and there will be no consequence to their slander).
                          Or... Some people in the French government have a vested interest in the success of W social (either monetary or for good PR) and they're undermining what they see as its main competition. ⤵️

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                          • david@setouchi.socialD david@setouchi.social

                            @_elena @Gargron Ineptitude or ill-intent. Hard to tell. The French press has a history of not caring about facts if it fits their narrative when talking about something they consider fringe (and there will be no consequence to their slander).
                            Or... Some people in the French government have a vested interest in the success of W social (either monetary or for good PR) and they're undermining what they see as its main competition. ⤵️

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                            #57

                            @_elena @Gargron We have to expect a lot of media promoting WSocial in the next weeks and months. And that will include a lot of negative mentions of Mastodon, I'm afraid.

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