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  • oli@social.tchncs.deO oli@social.tchncs.de

    @peter I abso-f-cking-lutely LOVE that he doesn't even remotely entertain the idea of using ClawdBot to check for malicious skills. It's a wondrous machine that can do anything as long as it is irrelevant and unsafe.

    👀 @h0g3R

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    #61

    @oli

    Hey #openclaw, replenish my popcorn reserves, kthxbye.

    @peter

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    • h0g3r@nrw.socialH h0g3r@nrw.social

      @oli

      Hey #openclaw, replenish my popcorn reserves, kthxbye.

      @peter

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      #62

      @oli

      But in all seriousness, I admire P. Steinberger for letting this thing of the leech. Its the simple best proof of concept for all the critics of this technology. And a lot of the over confident fanboyz get their fair share of their own medicine along the way.

      @peter

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      • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

        what a fucking shitshow.

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        #63

        @peter

        My rule for any new computer thing with a social aspect is: If they don't have any details on how they are going to moderate it, just skip it.

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        • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

          Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.

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          #64

          @peter ageism rocks, am I right?

          Shame the breathless, uncritical, runaway ambition not some roughly-drawn caricature attached to age.

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          • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

            what a fucking shitshow.

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            #65

            @peter This is the tech-bro mindset in a nutshell. "I made a cool thing that lets both well-intentioned and malicious people do things, and there's nothing I can do about the latter."

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            • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

              Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.

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              #66

              @peter just wanted to say, as someone in that latter age range, that the people calling this ageist are off the mark; i don't feel tagged by this at all, i avoided management and still make stuff and i *do* move slower than i did in my 20s/30s but i have dramatically better discernment and ability to spot bad directions, and it's not the least bit ageist to criticize people who are desperately conforming to ageist/classist notions of productivity by using LLMs etc bc their ideology sucks.

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              • flyingsaceur@ioc.exchangeF flyingsaceur@ioc.exchange

                @peter like all divorced dads, they were too self absorbed to notice that their wife (or QA department or line manager or PM) was doing all the hard work to protect them and their families from their own bad decisions

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                #67

                @flyingsaceur @peter now they ride with this hot chick Claude(ia) in their vibe codecabrio into the sunset

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                • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                  Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.

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                  #68

                  @peter wait, no, he and I are about the same age and I’m not middle-age — ah, shit.

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                  • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                    Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.

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                    #69

                    @peter I burned out early 20s, so if I become like that in 10 years please someone stop me

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                    • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                      what a fucking shitshow.

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                      #70

                      @peter

                      Wow, "there isn't a simple solution to this" is not the conclusion I reached. I immediately thought of a very simple solution.

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                      • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

                        @peter just wanted to say, as someone in that latter age range, that the people calling this ageist are off the mark; i don't feel tagged by this at all, i avoided management and still make stuff and i *do* move slower than i did in my 20s/30s but i have dramatically better discernment and ability to spot bad directions, and it's not the least bit ageist to criticize people who are desperately conforming to ageist/classist notions of productivity by using LLMs etc bc their ideology sucks.

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                        #71

                        @jplebreton @peter what I don't get is that somebody like him would have been online early and lived through BBS's, Usenet, early Internet forums, etc. The need for moderation of some kind for any user generated content is something this cohort -- the tech savvy among them at least -- should natively understand. And yet.

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                        • overstrike@mastodon.socialO overstrike@mastodon.social

                          @jplebreton @peter what I don't get is that somebody like him would have been online early and lived through BBS's, Usenet, early Internet forums, etc. The need for moderation of some kind for any user generated content is something this cohort -- the tech savvy among them at least -- should natively understand. And yet.

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                          #72

                          @overstrike @peter definitely yeah, the first several decades of online society gave such clear lessons in the value of moderation and anyone who let the 2010s megaplatform anti-moderation mindset overwrite that wisdom in their minds is deeply suspect.

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                          • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                            what a fucking shitshow.

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                            #73

                            @peter @Viss

                            Equally satisfying, no response to this that I see in your screenshot.

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                            • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                              what a fucking shitshow.

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                              #74

                              @peter Umh, there _is_ a simple solution?

                              Just pull the 🔌!

                              I'm sure the dev has considered that option. NOT. 😡

                              #AI

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                              • bithive@social.tchncs.deB bithive@social.tchncs.de

                                @flyingsaceur @peter now they ride with this hot chick Claude(ia) in their vibe codecabrio into the sunset

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                                #75

                                @bithive @peter the vibe codecabrio:

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                                • wakame@tech.lgbtW wakame@tech.lgbt

                                  @peterrenshaw @peter

                                  "In today's fast-moving agile high-performance AI-driven competitive landscape, we simply have to accept one or two malware applications on each of our systems. Don't worry, the competition has them too."

                                  /s

                                  I already have some great ideas for startups:

                                  "Hosted OpenClaw": Like OpenClaw, but hosted in the cloud, monitored, only allowed to run verified skills, token spending limits and so on. Of course we sell your data.

                                  "AI Antivir": A malware scanner for your AI deployment. Guaranteed to prevent an attack once in a blue moon.

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                                  #76

                                  @peterrenshaw @peter @wakame You joke, but.. give it six months?

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                                  • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                                    @peterrenshaw @peter @wakame You joke, but.. give it six months?

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                                    #77

                                    @drwho @peterrenshaw @peter

                                    Absolutely. Likely with an add-on "AI insurance" that sounds nice but will not cover any of the cases you would actually want an insurance for.

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                                    • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                      what a fucking shitshow.

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                                      #78

                                      @peter someone please create www.aiisgoingjustgreat.com

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                                      • wakame@tech.lgbtW wakame@tech.lgbt

                                        @drwho @peterrenshaw @peter

                                        Absolutely. Likely with an add-on "AI insurance" that sounds nice but will not cover any of the cases you would actually want an insurance for.

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                                        #79

                                        @peterrenshaw @peter @wakame But having the insurance checks a box for compliance audits, and you can write the fuckups off on your taxes as the cost of doing business.

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                                        • jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ jaredwhite@indieweb.social

                                          @peter @suzannealdrich Totally. If I had a dime for every tale of "I'd almost forgetten how to code it's been so long maaaan, what with my 7-figure VP job in Santa Clara and all…but then I picked up Claude Code and now I'm releasing 80 new apps every hour. This is the greatest thing in the history of mankind!"
                                          ……

                                          🤦🏻‍♂️

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                                          #80

                                          @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich There is frequently a correlation between how long it's been since someone did any real work, and how into LLM tools a person is.

                                          Yes, there are outliers, but I get immediately suspicious of most LLM boosters and any actual value they've provided to their company in years.

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