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  • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

    Peter Steinberger is a great example of how AI is catnip very specifically for middle-aged tech guys. they spend their 20s and 30s writing code, burn out or do management stuff for a decade, then come back in their late 40s/50s and want to try to throw that fastball again. Claude Code makes them feel like they still got it.

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    #69

    @peter I burned out early 20s, so if I become like that in 10 years please someone stop me

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    • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

      what a fucking shitshow.

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      #70

      @peter

      Wow, "there isn't a simple solution to this" is not the conclusion I reached. I immediately thought of a very simple solution.

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      • jplebreton@mastodon.socialJ jplebreton@mastodon.social

        @peter just wanted to say, as someone in that latter age range, that the people calling this ageist are off the mark; i don't feel tagged by this at all, i avoided management and still make stuff and i *do* move slower than i did in my 20s/30s but i have dramatically better discernment and ability to spot bad directions, and it's not the least bit ageist to criticize people who are desperately conforming to ageist/classist notions of productivity by using LLMs etc bc their ideology sucks.

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        #71

        @jplebreton @peter what I don't get is that somebody like him would have been online early and lived through BBS's, Usenet, early Internet forums, etc. The need for moderation of some kind for any user generated content is something this cohort -- the tech savvy among them at least -- should natively understand. And yet.

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        • overstrike@mastodon.socialO overstrike@mastodon.social

          @jplebreton @peter what I don't get is that somebody like him would have been online early and lived through BBS's, Usenet, early Internet forums, etc. The need for moderation of some kind for any user generated content is something this cohort -- the tech savvy among them at least -- should natively understand. And yet.

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          #72

          @overstrike @peter definitely yeah, the first several decades of online society gave such clear lessons in the value of moderation and anyone who let the 2010s megaplatform anti-moderation mindset overwrite that wisdom in their minds is deeply suspect.

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          • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

            what a fucking shitshow.

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            #73

            @peter @Viss

            Equally satisfying, no response to this that I see in your screenshot.

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            • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

              what a fucking shitshow.

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              #74

              @peter Umh, there _is_ a simple solution?

              Just pull the 🔌!

              I'm sure the dev has considered that option. NOT. 😡

              #AI

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              • bithive@social.tchncs.deB bithive@social.tchncs.de

                @flyingsaceur @peter now they ride with this hot chick Claude(ia) in their vibe codecabrio into the sunset

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                #75

                @bithive @peter the vibe codecabrio:

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                • wakame@tech.lgbtW wakame@tech.lgbt

                  @peterrenshaw @peter

                  "In today's fast-moving agile high-performance AI-driven competitive landscape, we simply have to accept one or two malware applications on each of our systems. Don't worry, the competition has them too."

                  /s

                  I already have some great ideas for startups:

                  "Hosted OpenClaw": Like OpenClaw, but hosted in the cloud, monitored, only allowed to run verified skills, token spending limits and so on. Of course we sell your data.

                  "AI Antivir": A malware scanner for your AI deployment. Guaranteed to prevent an attack once in a blue moon.

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                  #76

                  @peterrenshaw @peter @wakame You joke, but.. give it six months?

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                  • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                    @peterrenshaw @peter @wakame You joke, but.. give it six months?

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                    #77

                    @drwho @peterrenshaw @peter

                    Absolutely. Likely with an add-on "AI insurance" that sounds nice but will not cover any of the cases you would actually want an insurance for.

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                    • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                      what a fucking shitshow.

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                      #78

                      @peter someone please create www.aiisgoingjustgreat.com

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                      • wakame@tech.lgbtW wakame@tech.lgbt

                        @drwho @peterrenshaw @peter

                        Absolutely. Likely with an add-on "AI insurance" that sounds nice but will not cover any of the cases you would actually want an insurance for.

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                        #79

                        @peterrenshaw @peter @wakame But having the insurance checks a box for compliance audits, and you can write the fuckups off on your taxes as the cost of doing business.

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                        • jaredwhite@indieweb.socialJ jaredwhite@indieweb.social

                          @peter @suzannealdrich Totally. If I had a dime for every tale of "I'd almost forgetten how to code it's been so long maaaan, what with my 7-figure VP job in Santa Clara and all…but then I picked up Claude Code and now I'm releasing 80 new apps every hour. This is the greatest thing in the history of mankind!"
                          ……

                          🤦🏻‍♂️

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                          #80

                          @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich There is frequently a correlation between how long it's been since someone did any real work, and how into LLM tools a person is.

                          Yes, there are outliers, but I get immediately suspicious of most LLM boosters and any actual value they've provided to their company in years.

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                          • futuristicrobert@infosec.exchangeF futuristicrobert@infosec.exchange

                            @peter @Viss

                            Equally satisfying, no response to this that I see in your screenshot.

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                            #81

                            @FuturisticRobert @peter @Viss build an atomic bomb for anyone to use and then claim that people should be cautious.
                            Here, there you go, have fun with your daemon core.
                            If an artist could draw a nice demon core meme with clawdbot written on it...

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                            • mk30@tilde.zoneM mk30@tilde.zone

                              @peter he made a malware distribution tool and he's handwringing about whether to turn it off. Lol. Lmao.

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                              #82

                              @mk30 @peter least moronic AI enthusiast

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                              • eduqate@mastodon.socialE eduqate@mastodon.social

                                @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich Many years ago, a drinking pal was a social worker with a niche caseload. Young (for the most part) men who had suffered head injuries (and subsequent disablement) in motorcycle crashes. Mid-life guys pobably have a residual sense of survival.

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                                #83

                                @eduqate @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich If you're saying older men with head injuries were less common, that might be due to them being more sensible, but it could also be that their collisions are more likely to be fatal. I expect middle-aged men can afford much more powerful bikes than they could in their younger days.

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                                • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                  lol everything is happening because the Silicon Valley guys got old and are having a midlife crisis.

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                                  #84

                                  @peter

                                  and not only silicon valley itself. lots of tech people all over the world falling for the catnip.

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                                  • wakame@tech.lgbtW wakame@tech.lgbt

                                    @peterrenshaw @peter

                                    "In today's fast-moving agile high-performance AI-driven competitive landscape, we simply have to accept one or two malware applications on each of our systems. Don't worry, the competition has them too."

                                    /s

                                    I already have some great ideas for startups:

                                    "Hosted OpenClaw": Like OpenClaw, but hosted in the cloud, monitored, only allowed to run verified skills, token spending limits and so on. Of course we sell your data.

                                    "AI Antivir": A malware scanner for your AI deployment. Guaranteed to prevent an attack once in a blue moon.

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                                    #85
                                    @wakame @peterrenshaw @peter I'm afraid to google it but that last part probably already is a thing. I wouldn't bet against it anyway.
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                                    • eduqate@mastodon.socialE eduqate@mastodon.social

                                      @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich Many years ago, a drinking pal was a social worker with a niche caseload. Young (for the most part) men who had suffered head injuries (and subsequent disablement) in motorcycle crashes. Mid-life guys pobably have a residual sense of survival.

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                                      #86

                                      @eduqate @scrwd @jaredwhite @peter @suzannealdrich Survivorship bias

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                                      • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                        what a fucking shitshow.

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                                        #87

                                        @peter weird how they do not use AI to fix this 🤣

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                                        • peter@thepit.socialP peter@thepit.social

                                          lol everything is happening because the Silicon Valley guys got old and are having a midlife crisis.

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                                          #88

                                          @peter funny how he says that he has a lot of things in his plate. Why just not use your own thing to do all these things for you? Oh wait. Malicious skills by other users. Upsi dupsi

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