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  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

    Reject this future.

    Keep your hardware local.

    Run #Linux.

    Own your data.

    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

    https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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    #67

    @terminaltilt Well, didn't we have that mainframe situation when we started with computers?

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    • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

      Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

      You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

      AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

      Reject this future.

      Keep your hardware local.

      Run #Linux.

      Own your data.

      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

      #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

      https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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      #68

      @terminaltilt "Reject this future. :NoAI: & Keep your hardware local." = always did & always will 😀

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      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

        Reject this future.

        Keep your hardware local.

        Run #Linux.

        Own your data.

        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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        #69

        @terminaltilt considering I can get work done & have fun with any of fifty different sbcs (pi & its competitors, arduino, esp32) this isn’t a dire risk.

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        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

          Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

          You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

          AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

          Reject this future.

          Keep your hardware local.

          Run #Linux.

          Own your data.

          The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

          #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

          https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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          #70

          @terminaltilt So what can we do about it?

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          • cnx@awkward.placeC cnx@awkward.place

            You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

            @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social, this already happened, through the form of applications that are thin clients to SaaSS.

            Run Linux. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/tux.png" title=":tux:" />

            Run <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/gnu.png" title=":gnu:" /> or something idk, but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/android.png" title=":android:" />

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            #71
            @cnx @terminaltilt I use Linux. and I have never ever used any SaaS.
            and yes, it is Linux with only a very few GNU untils. because I can build Linux-based system without gnu utils at all. this is not important and does not have any special meaning,
            really, I don't like it where GNU goes nowadays and prefer to avoid it, except, maybe GCC with is not ruined yet (but they try!).
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            • ninesigns@birdity.clubN ninesigns@birdity.club
              @terminaltilt This Jeff Bezos quote is like 10 yr old
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              #72
              @ninesigns @terminaltilt yeah, it really sounds like 10 years old kid. a mentally healthy adult person cannot say such a rubbish.
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              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                Reject this future.

                Keep your hardware local.

                Run #Linux.

                Own your data.

                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                #73

                @terminaltilt Once they have a complete monopoly, they could charge their clients a fortune -which they would be obliged to pay, in a completely #digital society Besides, once they literally own our data juridically, they could reveal, cq sell them to any company or other instance, without even asking. - In connection with a #neofascist state, this would create hell for individuals. We would be deprived of all political, socio-economic and personal, including digital rights.

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                • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                  Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                  You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                  AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                  Reject this future.

                  Keep your hardware local.

                  Run #Linux.

                  Own your data.

                  The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                  #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                  https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                  #74

                  @terminaltilt Linux isn't a panacea and, in many ways, it's not ready for consumer prime time but, given the alternatives, it's the only choice for thinking users.

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                  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                    Reject this future.

                    Keep your hardware local.

                    Run #Linux.

                    Own your data.

                    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                    https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                    #75

                    @terminaltilt No vuelvo a comprar nada en la tienda del calvo, 😡

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                    • iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.orgI iron_bug@friendica.ironbug.org
                      @ninesigns @terminaltilt yeah, it really sounds like 10 years old kid. a mentally healthy adult person cannot say such a rubbish.
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                      #76
                      @iron_bug @terminaltilt it's very funny to namecall those you disagree with as "kids" or "insane".

                      He was perfectly sane and rational in his position to wish for bringing everything to cloud to make money of it.
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                      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                        Reject this future.

                        Keep your hardware local.

                        Run #Linux.

                        Own your data.

                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                        #77

                        @terminaltilt

                        Watch the latest one-hour-presentation of Cory doctorow at 39c3 about anticircumvention law and the war on general-purpose computer. And search the eff site for countermeasures

                        https://pluralistic.net/2026/01/01/39c3/

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                        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                          Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                          You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                          AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                          Reject this future.

                          Keep your hardware local.

                          Run #Linux.

                          Own your data.

                          The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                          #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                          https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                          #78

                          @terminaltilt Him and all the other billionaires and tech bros can go fuck a cactus. 🌵 They can kiss it and call it Ramona if they want. Billionaires should not exist. They’re the cancer of our societies. #BillionairesShouldNotExist

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                          • andre_ourednik@mastodon.socialA andre_ourednik@mastodon.social

                            @terminaltilt As much as I abhore anything that Jeff does and represents, I see an environmental point in a rental model. In the sense that ownership of hardware in a programmed obsolescence industry model is ecologically worse. Most people run their daily apps on massively overpowered individual machines, produced at huge environmental cost. And I see potential in sharing hardware here. But definitely not on AWS. Rather local hubs, something like a decentralized network of remote processors

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                            #79

                            @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt You're likely significantly overestimating the difference, and it may not even be a positive one. Servers in datacenters get rotated out and disposed of on a fixed schedule, typically, long before they actually stop working - whereas consumer hardware often gets handed down until it literally breaks.

                            Not to mention all the technical and resource overhead of remote anything. That network hardware and corresponding power use isn't free to the environment either.

                            If you're looking for a way to materially reduce the environmental footprint of computing, I would suggest that "the advertising industry" is probably the first place to look instead. They're responsible for a vast, vast chunk of energy and resource usage in computing and networking, while providing marginal to no value to society - it's a purely extractive industry.

                            Even ignoring the web, look up the power consumption of a single one of those video ad units they put on train stations and in shopping centers, and you'll probably be reeling from just how environmentally wasteful all this stuff is - and consumer hardware will suddenly look like a drop in the bucket. As a teaser: virtually all of those advertising screens have audible active cooling despite sound insulation attempts.

                            So... no, there's really no environmental point in a rental model. Insofar it makes any positive difference at all, that sure isn't the intention behind it, and all it does is further support an extractive culture that destroys the environment with no consideration for anything but its own profits. You don't even get to choose whether the hardware is turned on anymore. That is not an environmental win.

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                            • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                              Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                              You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                              AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                              Reject this future.

                              Keep your hardware local.

                              Run #Linux.

                              Own your data.

                              The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                              #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                              https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                              #80

                              @terminaltilt Quite right. Good, fast, and cheap computers are easily available to everyone these days. OS and browser "upgrades" are a lie. C.f. Liquid Glass, anyone? An old Windows or MacOS box that won't receive an "upgrade" could run Linux and still provide SSL for secure transactions, messaging, images, video...but no, now your bank or business or travel website is like, oh, you've got to upgrade your browser! If anything the apologists for capitalism say is true, then enshittification will eventually drive people to sane alternatives.

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                              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                Reject this future.

                                Keep your hardware local.

                                Run #Linux.

                                Own your data.

                                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                #81

                                @terminaltilt Linux.

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                                • luciedigitalni@aus.socialL luciedigitalni@aus.social

                                  @terminaltilt

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                                  #82

                                  @luciedigitalni @terminaltilt Which is why I've never put things on the cloud.

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                                  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                    Reject this future.

                                    Keep your hardware local.

                                    Run #Linux.

                                    Own your data.

                                    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                    https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                    #83

                                    @terminaltilt On the same note, here's a reminder. Your PC that "can't install Windows 11" because of hardware requirements will very likely run Linux with no trouble. One of the laptops I use almost daily is old enough it had a Windows 8 sticker on it.

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                                    • lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.socialL lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.social

                                      @terminaltilt
                                      Honestly, I really like cloud computing and cloud storage.
                                      Since we’re almost always connected to the internet, it’s an incredibly useful solution.

                                      I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee if:
                                      1) my data is properly encrypted
                                      2) my data stays on a European server
                                      3) my money doesn't go to a dictatorship country (such as where Bezos lives)
                                      4) the system I'm using is FOSS

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                                      #84

                                      @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt 🤣️ I'mma call you Mark

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                                      • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                                        @terminaltilt considering I can get work done & have fun with any of fifty different sbcs (pi & its competitors, arduino, esp32) this isn’t a dire risk.

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                                        #85

                                        @cascheranno @terminaltilt …for you, maybe. Not everybody is as computer literate.

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                                        • lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.socialL lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.social

                                          @shadows @terminaltilt

                                          Well, I'm not an IT expert, so I'm not sure I got what you said to me 😅

                                          Isn’t data encryption on servers enough to keep my files reasonably safe from everyone, including the hosting company?

                                          If the system were FOSS, could a law force the provider to insert a decryption backdoor without the user knowing?

                                          In short terms: is on-device scanning for such systems technologically feasible?

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                                          @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt Politicians in several countries have been trying to pass laws to force companies to put backdoors in encryption. Last year the UK hit Apple with a gag order and an order to remove Advanced Data Protection in the UK. The EU is constantly fighting with chat control. I think the chat control one is trying to force it at the OS level, which would be nearly impossible to enforce for everyone if the users still control the hardware. If we all move to hosted PCs, I can’t imagine privacy will be possible for too long.

                                          Quickly searched links (I only have a short break to respond):
                                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgn1lz3v4no

                                          https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/after-years-controversy-eus-chat-control-nears-its-final-hurdle-what-know

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