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  • andre_ourednik@mastodon.socialA andre_ourednik@mastodon.social

    @terminaltilt As much as I abhore anything that Jeff does and represents, I see an environmental point in a rental model. In the sense that ownership of hardware in a programmed obsolescence industry model is ecologically worse. Most people run their daily apps on massively overpowered individual machines, produced at huge environmental cost. And I see potential in sharing hardware here. But definitely not on AWS. Rather local hubs, something like a decentralized network of remote processors

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    #29

    @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt So what you see is basically the same as solar and wind power being produced locally. Personally I like that model far better than the rental idea as it takes power away from the few making it far more democratic for "We The People".

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    • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

      Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

      You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

      AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

      Reject this future.

      Keep your hardware local.

      Run #Linux.

      Own your data.

      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

      #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

      https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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      #30

      @terminaltilt Bezos is the alternate universe inverse evil version of Patrick Stewart.... Utterly cruel, greedy, narcissistic, and uncharismatic.

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      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

        Reject this future.

        Keep your hardware local.

        Run #Linux.

        Own your data.

        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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        #31

        You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

        @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social, this already happened, through the form of applications that are thin clients to SaaSS.

        Run Linux. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/tux.png" title=":tux:" />

        Run <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/gnu.png" title=":gnu:" /> or something idk, but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/android.png" title=":android:" />

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        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

          Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

          You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

          AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

          Reject this future.

          Keep your hardware local.

          Run #Linux.

          Own your data.

          The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

          #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

          https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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          #32

          @terminaltilt

          Never waste a crisis!

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          • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

            Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

            You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

            AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

            Reject this future.

            Keep your hardware local.

            Run #Linux.

            Own your data.

            The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

            #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

            https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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            #33

            @terminaltilt those people have no new ideas, Bezos just reinvented the mainframe.

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            • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

              Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

              You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

              AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

              Reject this future.

              Keep your hardware local.

              Run #Linux.

              Own your data.

              The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

              #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

              https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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              #34

              @terminaltilt When people see me on here saying "Local-first Software Principles should be the fucking law", this is what I'm talking about.

              #CassandraComplexGoneWild

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              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                Reject this future.

                Keep your hardware local.

                Run #Linux.

                Own your data.

                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                #35

                @terminaltilt not only that but how it is going right now is that it gives power to the 1%

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                • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                  Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                  You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                  AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                  Reject this future.

                  Keep your hardware local.

                  Run #Linux.

                  Own your data.

                  The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                  #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                  https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                  #36

                  @terminaltilt
                  Honestly, I really like cloud computing and cloud storage.
                  Since we’re almost always connected to the internet, it’s an incredibly useful solution.

                  I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee if:
                  1) my data is properly encrypted
                  2) my data stays on a European server
                  3) my money doesn't go to a dictatorship country (such as where Bezos lives)
                  4) the system I'm using is FOSS

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                  • cnx@awkward.placeC cnx@awkward.place

                    You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                    @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social, this already happened, through the form of applications that are thin clients to SaaSS.

                    Run Linux. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/tux.png" title=":tux:" />

                    Run <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/gnu.png" title=":gnu:" /> or something idk, but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/android.png" title=":android:" />

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                    #37

                    @cnx @terminaltilt

                    > but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS.

                    Please elaborate how

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                    • snep@y.diskcat.comS snep@y.diskcat.com

                      @cnx @terminaltilt

                      > but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS.

                      Please elaborate how

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                      #38

                      Already did in that comment, but since I can't rule out custom emoji inaccessibility issues, Imma spell it out for thee, @snep@y.diskcat.com: Android Google/Linux.

                      Cc: @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

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                      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                        Reject this future.

                        Keep your hardware local.

                        Run #Linux.

                        Own your data.

                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                        #39

                        @terminaltilt
                        My wife is a very aware and private person, so she doesn't want any of our personal information in the cloud.

                        As a person who stopped doing hands on tech work 20 years ago, I'm amazed that many of my old Unix skills are still current an suitable to run home systems.

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                        • cnx@awkward.placeC cnx@awkward.place

                          Already did in that comment, but since I can't rule out custom emoji inaccessibility issues, Imma spell it out for thee, @snep@y.diskcat.com: Android Google/Linux.

                          Cc: @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

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                          #40

                          @cnx @terminaltilt So your comment isn't regarding Linux distributions as a whole, you're rather referring to Linux kernels running underneath Android *specifically?

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                          • snep@y.diskcat.comS snep@y.diskcat.com

                            @cnx @terminaltilt So your comment isn't regarding Linux distributions as a whole, you're rather referring to Linux kernels running underneath Android *specifically?

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                            #41

                            Yea @snep@y.diskcat.com, I was replying to @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social who claimed using Linux is a solution against SaaSS, when it's really about empowering everyone with a free software. Linux is not a politically important part of GNU/Linux distributions (and GNU implementations too for that matter, but at least the GNU project, unlike the Linux Foundation, isn't advocating for proprietary software and SaaSS). Neither do GNU/Linux distributions hold a significant market share of Linux, most of which being Android that many people are already using.

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                            • lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.socialL lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.social

                              @terminaltilt
                              Honestly, I really like cloud computing and cloud storage.
                              Since we’re almost always connected to the internet, it’s an incredibly useful solution.

                              I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee if:
                              1) my data is properly encrypted
                              2) my data stays on a European server
                              3) my money doesn't go to a dictatorship country (such as where Bezos lives)
                              4) the system I'm using is FOSS

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                              #42

                              @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt will you still like it if they pass laws that enforce on-device scanning of all data on the internet?

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                              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                Reject this future.

                                Keep your hardware local.

                                Run #Linux.

                                Own your data.

                                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                #43

                                @terminaltilt They are closing in: Big Tech is on the prowl of ALL of your data. And flooding the internet with all their AI infested cloudware, they can respond with ever so heavily manipulated lies and bogus selling it to you as facts and truth, regardless whatever you were searching for on that web. That fake reality will warp anything more strongly than a supermassive black hole.

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                                • S shadows@beige.party

                                  @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt will you still like it if they pass laws that enforce on-device scanning of all data on the internet?

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                                  #44

                                  @shadows @terminaltilt

                                  Well, I'm not an IT expert, so I'm not sure I got what you said to me 😅

                                  Isn’t data encryption on servers enough to keep my files reasonably safe from everyone, including the hosting company?

                                  If the system were FOSS, could a law force the provider to insert a decryption backdoor without the user knowing?

                                  In short terms: is on-device scanning for such systems technologically feasible?

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                                  • lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.socialL lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.social

                                    @terminaltilt
                                    Honestly, I really like cloud computing and cloud storage.
                                    Since we’re almost always connected to the internet, it’s an incredibly useful solution.

                                    I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee if:
                                    1) my data is properly encrypted
                                    2) my data stays on a European server
                                    3) my money doesn't go to a dictatorship country (such as where Bezos lives)
                                    4) the system I'm using is FOSS

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                                    #45

                                    @LorenzoBonomelli
                                    But someone else defines issues 1) thru 4) for you. They own your data then. Your data is on THEIR computer.
                                    @terminaltilt

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                                    • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                      Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                      You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                      AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                      Reject this future.

                                      Keep your hardware local.

                                      Run #Linux.

                                      Own your data.

                                      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                      #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                      https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                      #46

                                      @terminaltilt and then as I've just found with FB, if you become persona non grata they can just erase your entire existence really easily. Easier to control citizens if their data is on servers they don't control.

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                                      • nicovel0@mastodon.socialN nicovel0@mastodon.social

                                        @terminaltilt those people have no new ideas, Bezos just reinvented the mainframe.

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                                        #47

                                        @Nicovel0 HIS mainframe, YOUR data. Pictures of your kids, stored digital receipts of stuff you bought, a photographed confession of that remote uncle who came out in 1944, then snatched by the Nazis, you being confronted with secret messages from your spouse to her co-worker, your pictures where you wear girl's clothes and make-up. Regardless how anyone reacts to them, you truly don't want anyone to google around your data.
                                        @terminaltilt

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                                        • andre_ourednik@mastodon.socialA andre_ourednik@mastodon.social

                                          @terminaltilt As much as I abhore anything that Jeff does and represents, I see an environmental point in a rental model. In the sense that ownership of hardware in a programmed obsolescence industry model is ecologically worse. Most people run their daily apps on massively overpowered individual machines, produced at huge environmental cost. And I see potential in sharing hardware here. But definitely not on AWS. Rather local hubs, something like a decentralized network of remote processors

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                                          #48

                                          @andre_ourednik That's not what Bezos means. He wants YOUR data on HIS centralized 'mainframe'.
                                          @terminaltilt

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