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  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

    Reject this future.

    Keep your hardware local.

    Run #Linux.

    Own your data.

    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

    https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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    #25

    @terminaltilt
    this dude will take business losses long enough to keep competitors heads underwater

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    • licho@kolektiva.socialL licho@kolektiva.social

      @terminaltilt the difficult part starts when they jack up the prices of components the way we see it happen with ram. It's artificial, there were analyses that it was bought for money that are not there to be put in graphics cards that don't exist in data centers that aren't built yet in response to demand that is yet to come.

      So they can push us out from the local computation with price. Or at least make it an upper middle class thing.

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      #26

      @licho @terminaltilt
      shitty wages have meant people choose, have a phone (the latest phone, because that's what they can figure out, which costs as much as a computer, spread over months or years) and maybe get a tablet/notebook/computer

      IPads turn to a brick over a couple years, they just stop playing videos and slow to a frustrating crawl.

      Android has disabled the data capability of the USB cable for the most part, in order to keep people closer to monthly storage charges.

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      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

        Reject this future.

        Keep your hardware local.

        Run #Linux.

        Own your data.

        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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        #27

        @terminaltilt As much as I abhore anything that Jeff does and represents, I see an environmental point in a rental model. In the sense that ownership of hardware in a programmed obsolescence industry model is ecologically worse. Most people run their daily apps on massively overpowered individual machines, produced at huge environmental cost. And I see potential in sharing hardware here. But definitely not on AWS. Rather local hubs, something like a decentralized network of remote processors

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        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

          Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

          You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

          AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

          Reject this future.

          Keep your hardware local.

          Run #Linux.

          Own your data.

          The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

          #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

          https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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          #28

          @terminaltilt there's a reason why I prefer my steamdeck and valve hardware over this bullshit

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          • andre_ourednik@mastodon.socialA andre_ourednik@mastodon.social

            @terminaltilt As much as I abhore anything that Jeff does and represents, I see an environmental point in a rental model. In the sense that ownership of hardware in a programmed obsolescence industry model is ecologically worse. Most people run their daily apps on massively overpowered individual machines, produced at huge environmental cost. And I see potential in sharing hardware here. But definitely not on AWS. Rather local hubs, something like a decentralized network of remote processors

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            #29

            @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt So what you see is basically the same as solar and wind power being produced locally. Personally I like that model far better than the rental idea as it takes power away from the few making it far more democratic for "We The People".

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            • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

              Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

              You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

              AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

              Reject this future.

              Keep your hardware local.

              Run #Linux.

              Own your data.

              The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

              #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

              https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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              #30

              @terminaltilt Bezos is the alternate universe inverse evil version of Patrick Stewart.... Utterly cruel, greedy, narcissistic, and uncharismatic.

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              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                Reject this future.

                Keep your hardware local.

                Run #Linux.

                Own your data.

                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                #31

                You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social, this already happened, through the form of applications that are thin clients to SaaSS.

                Run Linux. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/tux.png" title=":tux:" />

                Run <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/gnu.png" title=":gnu:" /> or something idk, but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/android.png" title=":android:" />

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                • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                  Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                  You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                  AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                  Reject this future.

                  Keep your hardware local.

                  Run #Linux.

                  Own your data.

                  The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                  #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                  https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                  #32

                  @terminaltilt

                  Never waste a crisis!

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                  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                    Reject this future.

                    Keep your hardware local.

                    Run #Linux.

                    Own your data.

                    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                    https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                    #33

                    @terminaltilt those people have no new ideas, Bezos just reinvented the mainframe.

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                    • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                      Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                      You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                      AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                      Reject this future.

                      Keep your hardware local.

                      Run #Linux.

                      Own your data.

                      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                      #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                      https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                      #34

                      @terminaltilt When people see me on here saying "Local-first Software Principles should be the fucking law", this is what I'm talking about.

                      #CassandraComplexGoneWild

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                      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                        Reject this future.

                        Keep your hardware local.

                        Run #Linux.

                        Own your data.

                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                        #35

                        @terminaltilt not only that but how it is going right now is that it gives power to the 1%

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                        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                          Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                          You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                          AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                          Reject this future.

                          Keep your hardware local.

                          Run #Linux.

                          Own your data.

                          The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                          #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                          https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                          #36

                          @terminaltilt
                          Honestly, I really like cloud computing and cloud storage.
                          Since we’re almost always connected to the internet, it’s an incredibly useful solution.

                          I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee if:
                          1) my data is properly encrypted
                          2) my data stays on a European server
                          3) my money doesn't go to a dictatorship country (such as where Bezos lives)
                          4) the system I'm using is FOSS

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                          • cnx@awkward.placeC cnx@awkward.place

                            You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                            @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social, this already happened, through the form of applications that are thin clients to SaaSS.

                            Run Linux. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/tux.png" title=":tux:" />

                            Run <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/gnu.png" title=":gnu:" /> or something idk, but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS. <img class="not-responsive emoji" src="https://awkward.place/emoji/stolen/android.png" title=":android:" />

                            snep@y.diskcat.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #37

                            @cnx @terminaltilt

                            > but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS.

                            Please elaborate how

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                            • snep@y.diskcat.comS snep@y.diskcat.com

                              @cnx @terminaltilt

                              > but Linux users are renting computing powers through SaaSS.

                              Please elaborate how

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                              #38

                              Already did in that comment, but since I can't rule out custom emoji inaccessibility issues, Imma spell it out for thee, @snep@y.diskcat.com: Android Google/Linux.

                              Cc: @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

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                              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                Reject this future.

                                Keep your hardware local.

                                Run #Linux.

                                Own your data.

                                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                #39

                                @terminaltilt
                                My wife is a very aware and private person, so she doesn't want any of our personal information in the cloud.

                                As a person who stopped doing hands on tech work 20 years ago, I'm amazed that many of my old Unix skills are still current an suitable to run home systems.

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                                • cnx@awkward.placeC cnx@awkward.place

                                  Already did in that comment, but since I can't rule out custom emoji inaccessibility issues, Imma spell it out for thee, @snep@y.diskcat.com: Android Google/Linux.

                                  Cc: @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

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                                  #40

                                  @cnx @terminaltilt So your comment isn't regarding Linux distributions as a whole, you're rather referring to Linux kernels running underneath Android *specifically?

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                                  • snep@y.diskcat.comS snep@y.diskcat.com

                                    @cnx @terminaltilt So your comment isn't regarding Linux distributions as a whole, you're rather referring to Linux kernels running underneath Android *specifically?

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                                    #41

                                    Yea @snep@y.diskcat.com, I was replying to @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social who claimed using Linux is a solution against SaaSS, when it's really about empowering everyone with a free software. Linux is not a politically important part of GNU/Linux distributions (and GNU implementations too for that matter, but at least the GNU project, unlike the Linux Foundation, isn't advocating for proprietary software and SaaSS). Neither do GNU/Linux distributions hold a significant market share of Linux, most of which being Android that many people are already using.

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                                    • lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.socialL lorenzobonomelli@mastodon.social

                                      @terminaltilt
                                      Honestly, I really like cloud computing and cloud storage.
                                      Since we’re almost always connected to the internet, it’s an incredibly useful solution.

                                      I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee if:
                                      1) my data is properly encrypted
                                      2) my data stays on a European server
                                      3) my money doesn't go to a dictatorship country (such as where Bezos lives)
                                      4) the system I'm using is FOSS

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                                      #42

                                      @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt will you still like it if they pass laws that enforce on-device scanning of all data on the internet?

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                                      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                        Reject this future.

                                        Keep your hardware local.

                                        Run #Linux.

                                        Own your data.

                                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                                        https://www.windowscentral.com/artificial-intelligence/jeff-bezos-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud-bezos-envisions-that-youll-give-up-your-pc-for-an-ai-cloud-version

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                                        #43

                                        @terminaltilt They are closing in: Big Tech is on the prowl of ALL of your data. And flooding the internet with all their AI infested cloudware, they can respond with ever so heavily manipulated lies and bogus selling it to you as facts and truth, regardless whatever you were searching for on that web. That fake reality will warp anything more strongly than a supermassive black hole.

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                                        • S shadows@beige.party

                                          @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt will you still like it if they pass laws that enforce on-device scanning of all data on the internet?

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                                          #44

                                          @shadows @terminaltilt

                                          Well, I'm not an IT expert, so I'm not sure I got what you said to me 😅

                                          Isn’t data encryption on servers enough to keep my files reasonably safe from everyone, including the hosting company?

                                          If the system were FOSS, could a law force the provider to insert a decryption backdoor without the user knowing?

                                          In short terms: is on-device scanning for such systems technologically feasible?

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