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  • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

    @c0dec0dec0de for one sweet, blissful moment, I forgot it existed…

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    #4

    @amberage

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    • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

      @amberage

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      #5

      @c0dec0dec0de the sad thing about LWD is: it's the closest to good Trek we have at the moment.

      It looks like TNG ten years down the road. There are no nonsensical aesthetic retcons, no holo interfaces, no spore drive, no "we ran out of ideas so we're doing the Borg again", no "Blade Runner but worse".

      It could be so, so good, and in an alternate dimension, somewhere far far away, where they have good Star Trek, there is a version of me enjoying LWD as a lovely Star Trek self-parody.

      But in this dimension, the fact that the show with the most potential to be authentic Star Trek is not just a comedy, but a comedy that's canon, ridiculous plots and tiringly self-referential fan service gags included, feels like salt into wounds.

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      • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

        @c0dec0dec0de the sad thing about LWD is: it's the closest to good Trek we have at the moment.

        It looks like TNG ten years down the road. There are no nonsensical aesthetic retcons, no holo interfaces, no spore drive, no "we ran out of ideas so we're doing the Borg again", no "Blade Runner but worse".

        It could be so, so good, and in an alternate dimension, somewhere far far away, where they have good Star Trek, there is a version of me enjoying LWD as a lovely Star Trek self-parody.

        But in this dimension, the fact that the show with the most potential to be authentic Star Trek is not just a comedy, but a comedy that's canon, ridiculous plots and tiringly self-referential fan service gags included, feels like salt into wounds.

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        #6

        @c0dec0dec0de (same issue I have with PRO: it could be a lovely Star Trek kids' show, but that it and its kindergarten-level plots are considered canon is awful IMO)

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        • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

          @c0dec0dec0de the sad thing about LWD is: it's the closest to good Trek we have at the moment.

          It looks like TNG ten years down the road. There are no nonsensical aesthetic retcons, no holo interfaces, no spore drive, no "we ran out of ideas so we're doing the Borg again", no "Blade Runner but worse".

          It could be so, so good, and in an alternate dimension, somewhere far far away, where they have good Star Trek, there is a version of me enjoying LWD as a lovely Star Trek self-parody.

          But in this dimension, the fact that the show with the most potential to be authentic Star Trek is not just a comedy, but a comedy that's canon, ridiculous plots and tiringly self-referential fan service gags included, feels like salt into wounds.

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          #7

          @amberage I thought it wasn’t canon, although the runners and writers went to pains to make sure nothing contradicted actual canon?

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          • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

            All Star Trek shows in a nutshell:

            • TOS: What if people in the future didn't suck?
            • TNG: What if people in the future didn't suck but in HD?
            • DS9: Terrorism is good actually, because fascism is bad
            • VOY: Oops! DS9 got too political! Star Wars and sexy robot lady, anyone?
            • ENT: Rick Berman's George-Lucas-complex fails / men will write 9/11 fanfic instead of going to therapy huh
            • DIS: We love Mass Effect btw
            • SNW: Paramount said remake TOS but worse
            • LWD: Do you like Rick & Morty? Do you confuse fan service for humour? Do we have a ship to sell you!
            • PRO: Can kids be merchandised to? Guess not, better cancel it
            • PIC: We wanted to make Blade Runner 3 but Ridley Scott said no :c
            • S31: We could tell you how much the CIA is paying us for this, but we'd have to kill you

            #StarTrek

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            #8

            @amberage Oh, is that why they canceled Prodigy

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            • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

              @amberage I thought it wasn’t canon, although the runners and writers went to pains to make sure nothing contradicted actual canon?

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              #9

              @c0dec0dec0de the wiki considers it canon, and in general, the approach from both Paramount and fans has always been that anything that's in an official movie or show is canon ("alpha canon"), whereas tie-in books, games, comics, etc. aren't ("beta canon")

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              • jbear5@floofy.techJ jbear5@floofy.tech

                @amberage Oh, is that why they canceled Prodigy

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                #10

                @Jbear5 no idea tbh

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                • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

                  All Star Trek shows in a nutshell:

                  • TOS: What if people in the future didn't suck?
                  • TNG: What if people in the future didn't suck but in HD?
                  • DS9: Terrorism is good actually, because fascism is bad
                  • VOY: Oops! DS9 got too political! Star Wars and sexy robot lady, anyone?
                  • ENT: Rick Berman's George-Lucas-complex fails / men will write 9/11 fanfic instead of going to therapy huh
                  • DIS: We love Mass Effect btw
                  • SNW: Paramount said remake TOS but worse
                  • LWD: Do you like Rick & Morty? Do you confuse fan service for humour? Do we have a ship to sell you!
                  • PRO: Can kids be merchandised to? Guess not, better cancel it
                  • PIC: We wanted to make Blade Runner 3 but Ridley Scott said no :c
                  • S31: We could tell you how much the CIA is paying us for this, but we'd have to kill you

                  #StarTrek

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                  #11

                  @amberage honestly, I love lower decks. The fan-service is a bit much sometimes, but it's my type of humour

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                  • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

                    All Star Trek shows in a nutshell:

                    • TOS: What if people in the future didn't suck?
                    • TNG: What if people in the future didn't suck but in HD?
                    • DS9: Terrorism is good actually, because fascism is bad
                    • VOY: Oops! DS9 got too political! Star Wars and sexy robot lady, anyone?
                    • ENT: Rick Berman's George-Lucas-complex fails / men will write 9/11 fanfic instead of going to therapy huh
                    • DIS: We love Mass Effect btw
                    • SNW: Paramount said remake TOS but worse
                    • LWD: Do you like Rick & Morty? Do you confuse fan service for humour? Do we have a ship to sell you!
                    • PRO: Can kids be merchandised to? Guess not, better cancel it
                    • PIC: We wanted to make Blade Runner 3 but Ridley Scott said no :c
                    • S31: We could tell you how much the CIA is paying us for this, but we'd have to kill you

                    #StarTrek

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                    #12

                    @amberage My non-ironic, considered theory is that someone at CBS saw Logan (2017) and they were like "I could do that, but make it Star Trek" and they had exactly zero more ideas and that's where Star Trek: Picard came from

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                    • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

                      All Star Trek shows in a nutshell:

                      • TOS: What if people in the future didn't suck?
                      • TNG: What if people in the future didn't suck but in HD?
                      • DS9: Terrorism is good actually, because fascism is bad
                      • VOY: Oops! DS9 got too political! Star Wars and sexy robot lady, anyone?
                      • ENT: Rick Berman's George-Lucas-complex fails / men will write 9/11 fanfic instead of going to therapy huh
                      • DIS: We love Mass Effect btw
                      • SNW: Paramount said remake TOS but worse
                      • LWD: Do you like Rick & Morty? Do you confuse fan service for humour? Do we have a ship to sell you!
                      • PRO: Can kids be merchandised to? Guess not, better cancel it
                      • PIC: We wanted to make Blade Runner 3 but Ridley Scott said no :c
                      • S31: We could tell you how much the CIA is paying us for this, but we'd have to kill you

                      #StarTrek

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                      #13

                      @amberage

                      So accurate!

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