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  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

    john_livingston@mamot.frJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #78

    @osm_tech

    Ping @mart1oeil @mathildesaliou

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    • robz@toot.robzazueta.comR robz@toot.robzazueta.com

      @osm_tech Why not write the article yourself as a blog post? Would much rather hear the full version of your side of the story than a journo's interpretation of it.

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      #79

      @robz @osm_tech And who is it going to reach?

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      • baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.usB baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.us

        @osm_tech I wonder if there's a way to fail2ban requests coming in faster than typically found in human requests.

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        #80

        @BalooUriza The problem is, who do you ban? Since the requests keep changing IPs and user agents.

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        • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

          @osm_tech tagging @mfeilner

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          #81

          @chillicampari @osm_tech So if it is too late to tag @mfeilner now, I am tagging @evawolfangel

          Journa et al.
          - #OSM is equally important as #wikipedia and wikibase
          - Please do not only report about critical infrastructure problems if an OSS project has birthday …

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          • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

            If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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            #82

            @osm_tech @camwilson fyi

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            • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

              @osm_tech @BalooUriza For IPv4, a bitmask of the entire address space is a viable "efficient" implementation of blocking. I wonder if there are tools that can do it that way rather than needing a gigantic list.

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              #83

              @dalias @osm_tech @BalooUriza we have a very efficient implementation in #vinylcache (formerly #varnishcache )

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              • blub@norden.socialB blub@norden.social

                @osm_tech Or @heiseonline ?

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                #84

                @blub @osm_tech @heiseonline Yeah I already replied.

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                • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                  If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                  #85

                  @osm_tech

                  The real solution here is for app stores to give users proper per-app security settings. If an app isn't doesn't have a good reason to be sending email, it shouldn't be trying.

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                  • L linux@bahn.social

                    @osm_tech
                    Maybe @adfichter for @republik_magazin ?

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                    #86

                    @Linux after vacation;) @osm_tech @republik_magazin

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                    • bjoerne@norden.socialB bjoerne@norden.social shared this topic
                    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                      If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                      #87

                      @osm_tech @publictorsten

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                      • jorgesanz@mapstodon.spaceJ jorgesanz@mapstodon.space

                        @osm_tech maybe @civio @dcabo can be interested or help finding someone

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                        #88

                        @jorgesanz @osm_tech @civio hmm, it doesn’t fit in Civio’s scope I’m afraid. But it’s definitely an issue I’m aware of, it’s worse now with all the AI scrapers and I wonder if we should block them all, they flood my apps too 😕 Maybe the 404 Media guys would be interested in this? https://www.404media.co/ai-scraping-bots-are-breaking-open-libraries-archives-and-museums/

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                        • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                          If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                          #89

                          @osm_tech
                          Maybe @La_Directa @donestech
                          @tunubesecamirio
                          @albalafarga
                          @mediapart
                          @mainichi
                          @heisec

                          Not Sure If they are already aware 😅

                          I remember @FediTips shared a list of News Media here in the fediverse, I'll try to find it.... Here it is https://fedi.directory/tag/investigative-journalism/

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                          • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                            If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                            #90

                            @osm_tech @theregister ?

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                            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                              If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                              #91

                              @osm_tech hey, look into spur.us, they can help with the residential proxy issue.

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                              • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                #92

                                @osm_tech @briankrebs

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                                • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                  If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                  #93

                                  @osm_tech in my experience, it helps if you have local representatives so journalists can speak with, and write about, a person in their own region.
                                  I could nudge Dutch (/Belgian) press!

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                                  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                    #94

                                    @osm_tech I tried to find you on BSky - I'd try over there...

                                    https://bsky.app/profile/joetidy.bsky.social
                                    https://bsky.app/profile/zsk.bsky.social
                                    https://bsky.app/profile/404media.co

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                                    • ryanvade@mas.toR ryanvade@mas.to

                                      @osm_tech @404mediaco

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                                      #95

                                      @ryanvade Was also my idea - and @heiseonline @heisec

                                      @osm_tech @404mediaco

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                                      • floris@freiburg.socialF floris@freiburg.social

                                        Vielleicht ist das ein Thema für die @lagedernation?

                                        lagedernation@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #96

                                        @floris
                                        @osm_tech Hi, please get in touch, we've covered OSM many times before and would love to learn more: team a lagedernation org

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                                        • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                          If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

                                          fantafanta@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #97

                                          @osm_tech Interesting. Perhaps we could follow-up via e-mail or DM? alexander.fanta@ftm.nl

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