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  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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    #76

    @osm_tech @taylorlorenz

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    • angelacarstensen@mastodon.onlineA angelacarstensen@mastodon.online shared this topic
    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

      If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

      chillicampari@layer8.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #77

      @osm_tech tagging @mfeilner

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      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

        If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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        #78

        @osm_tech

        Ping @mart1oeil @mathildesaliou

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        • robz@toot.robzazueta.comR robz@toot.robzazueta.com

          @osm_tech Why not write the article yourself as a blog post? Would much rather hear the full version of your side of the story than a journo's interpretation of it.

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          #79

          @robz @osm_tech And who is it going to reach?

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          • baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.usB baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.us

            @osm_tech I wonder if there's a way to fail2ban requests coming in faster than typically found in human requests.

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            #80

            @BalooUriza The problem is, who do you ban? Since the requests keep changing IPs and user agents.

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            • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

              @osm_tech tagging @mfeilner

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              #81

              @chillicampari @osm_tech So if it is too late to tag @mfeilner now, I am tagging @evawolfangel

              Journa et al.
              - #OSM is equally important as #wikipedia and wikibase
              - Please do not only report about critical infrastructure problems if an OSS project has birthday …

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              • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                #82

                @osm_tech @camwilson fyi

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                • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                  @osm_tech @BalooUriza For IPv4, a bitmask of the entire address space is a viable "efficient" implementation of blocking. I wonder if there are tools that can do it that way rather than needing a gigantic list.

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                  #83

                  @dalias @osm_tech @BalooUriza we have a very efficient implementation in #vinylcache (formerly #varnishcache )

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                  • blub@norden.socialB blub@norden.social

                    @osm_tech Or @heiseonline ?

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                    #84

                    @blub @osm_tech @heiseonline Yeah I already replied.

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                    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                      If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                      #85

                      @osm_tech

                      The real solution here is for app stores to give users proper per-app security settings. If an app isn't doesn't have a good reason to be sending email, it shouldn't be trying.

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                      • L linux@bahn.social

                        @osm_tech
                        Maybe @adfichter for @republik_magazin ?

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                        #86

                        @Linux after vacation;) @osm_tech @republik_magazin

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                        • bjoerne@norden.socialB bjoerne@norden.social shared this topic
                        • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                          If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                          #87

                          @osm_tech @publictorsten

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                          • jorgesanz@mapstodon.spaceJ jorgesanz@mapstodon.space

                            @osm_tech maybe @civio @dcabo can be interested or help finding someone

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                            #88

                            @jorgesanz @osm_tech @civio hmm, it doesn’t fit in Civio’s scope I’m afraid. But it’s definitely an issue I’m aware of, it’s worse now with all the AI scrapers and I wonder if we should block them all, they flood my apps too 😕 Maybe the 404 Media guys would be interested in this? https://www.404media.co/ai-scraping-bots-are-breaking-open-libraries-archives-and-museums/

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                            • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                              If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                              #89

                              @osm_tech
                              Maybe @La_Directa @donestech
                              @tunubesecamirio
                              @albalafarga
                              @mediapart
                              @mainichi
                              @heisec

                              Not Sure If they are already aware 😅

                              I remember @FediTips shared a list of News Media here in the fediverse, I'll try to find it.... Here it is https://fedi.directory/tag/investigative-journalism/

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                              • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                #90

                                @osm_tech @theregister ?

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                                • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                  If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

                                  wumbo@infosec.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #91

                                  @osm_tech hey, look into spur.us, they can help with the residential proxy issue.

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                                  • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                    If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                    #92

                                    @osm_tech @briankrebs

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                                    • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                      If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                      #93

                                      @osm_tech in my experience, it helps if you have local representatives so journalists can speak with, and write about, a person in their own region.
                                      I could nudge Dutch (/Belgian) press!

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                                      • osm_tech@en.osm.townO osm_tech@en.osm.town

                                        If you write about the messy reality behind "free" internet services: we're seeing #OpenStreetMap hammered by scrapers hiding behind residential proxy/embedded-SDK networks. We're a volunteer-run service and the costs are real. We'd love to talk to a journalist about what we're seeing + how we're responding. #AI #Bots #Abuse

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                                        #94

                                        @osm_tech I tried to find you on BSky - I'd try over there...

                                        https://bsky.app/profile/joetidy.bsky.social
                                        https://bsky.app/profile/zsk.bsky.social
                                        https://bsky.app/profile/404media.co

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                                        • ryanvade@mas.toR ryanvade@mas.to

                                          @osm_tech @404mediaco

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                                          #95

                                          @ryanvade Was also my idea - and @heiseonline @heisec

                                          @osm_tech @404mediaco

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