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Some of my favorite international political cartoons from @cartoonmovement this week, by Matthew Fuller, Deb Milbrath, Gatis Sluka and Franco Juri.

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  • sternentau@don.linxx.netS sternentau@don.linxx.net

    @royaards How about to post it just later when you've got the time to describe it properly? More than three blind people following me and are out of context if I share your posts, because you argue with "I have no time". For the posting itself you have enough time?

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    #8

    @sternentau @royaards

    so when you offer a helping hand, rather than spiteful backbiting, you tend to have a better experience in life in general, nevermind in terms of getting people to go along with what you want, asshole

    write the alt text yourself, and fix your attitude

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @sternentau @royaards

      so when you offer a helping hand, rather than spiteful backbiting, you tend to have a better experience in life in general, nevermind in terms of getting people to go along with what you want, asshole

      write the alt text yourself, and fix your attitude

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      #9

      @benroyce @sternentau are you also saying "write your Alttext yourself" to a blind Person asking for it?

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      • svenja@mstdn.gamesS svenja@mstdn.games

        @benroyce @sternentau are you also saying "write your Alttext yourself" to a blind Person asking for it?

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        #10

        @svenja @sternentau

        they wrote "More than three blind people following me" so no, liar

        you don't get anything in this world harassing people

        you get everything in this world by helping, and being nice

        if certain assholes don't learn this, they are actively harming alt text adoption

        do you understand? it's not fucking complicated

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @svenja @sternentau

          they wrote "More than three blind people following me" so no, liar

          you don't get anything in this world harassing people

          you get everything in this world by helping, and being nice

          if certain assholes don't learn this, they are actively harming alt text adoption

          do you understand? it's not fucking complicated

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          #11

          @benroyce ah well so I am a Liar or what do you want to tell me here besides your Tonepolicing? @sternentau

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          • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

            @sternentau

            I try to do comprehensive alt texts whenever I can, but they do take a lot of time, time I sometimes don't have during my working day (and it's not like social media provides any income...)

            Snarky comments don't really help.

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            anantagd@ieji.de
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            #12

            @royaards @sternentau I'm blind, Tjeerd. I have no options. Your alt text is the only thing that gives me access to your images. It appears alt text and blind people are an immense burden to you and a disruption of your workday. I regret that I congratulated you on having a cartoon published in 3 national newspapers. If you find that snarky, tough luck, Sighty

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @sternentau @royaards @cartoonmovement

              i've seen people provide the alt text in the replies, then the op edits the top comment or the reply serves as a guide

              instead of just complaining, why don't you do that

              people who just complain things aren't better, rather than actively working to make things better, are not on the side of good in this world

              they are on the side of their ego

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              #13

              @benroyce

              No ableistic people in my timeline --> mute

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              • svenja@mstdn.gamesS svenja@mstdn.games

                @benroyce ah well so I am a Liar or what do you want to tell me here besides your Tonepolicing? @sternentau

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                #14

                @svenja @sternentau

                tone policing is exactly the problem, deep thinker: the reply guy harassing a poster for no alt text is concern trolling

                if you want more alt text:

                1. people provide it cheerfully, they are helping

                2. the person suggested the alt text appreciates it

                3. then next time they remember to do it themselves

                do you see how real life works, genius?

                if instead there is harassment of the poster, they don't do alt text

                they leave mastodon because of busybody controlling assholes

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                • royaards@newsie.socialR royaards@newsie.social

                  @sternentau

                  I try to do comprehensive alt texts whenever I can, but they do take a lot of time, time I sometimes don't have during my working day (and it's not like social media provides any income...)

                  Snarky comments don't really help.

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                  #15

                  @royaards

                  https://fedi.tips/how-do-i-make-posts-more-accessible-to-blind-people-on-mastodon-and-the-fediverse/

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @svenja @sternentau

                    tone policing is exactly the problem, deep thinker: the reply guy harassing a poster for no alt text is concern trolling

                    if you want more alt text:

                    1. people provide it cheerfully, they are helping

                    2. the person suggested the alt text appreciates it

                    3. then next time they remember to do it themselves

                    do you see how real life works, genius?

                    if instead there is harassment of the poster, they don't do alt text

                    they leave mastodon because of busybody controlling assholes

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                    #16

                    @benroyce Are you aware that @svenja is blind?

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @svenja @sternentau

                      they wrote "More than three blind people following me" so no, liar

                      you don't get anything in this world harassing people

                      you get everything in this world by helping, and being nice

                      if certain assholes don't learn this, they are actively harming alt text adoption

                      do you understand? it's not fucking complicated

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                      anantagd@ieji.de
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                      #17

                      @benroyce@mastodon.social @svenja @sternentau

                      "Yes, we, the Sighties, will grant you a tiny crumb of access, but only if you're sufficiently nice and grateful"

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @svenja @sternentau

                        tone policing is exactly the problem, deep thinker: the reply guy harassing a poster for no alt text is concern trolling

                        if you want more alt text:

                        1. people provide it cheerfully, they are helping

                        2. the person suggested the alt text appreciates it

                        3. then next time they remember to do it themselves

                        do you see how real life works, genius?

                        if instead there is harassment of the poster, they don't do alt text

                        they leave mastodon because of busybody controlling assholes

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                        #18

                        @benroyce @sternentau "if instead you harass the poster, they don't do alt text they leave mastodon because of busybody controlling assholes" don't thread me with having a good time without assholes who don't want to write Alttext.

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                        • gunchleoc@mastodon.scotG gunchleoc@mastodon.scot

                          @benroyce Are you aware that @svenja is blind?

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                          #19

                          @gunchleoc @svenja

                          100%. i hovered over their profile before responding

                          how does that change the issue one bit?

                          if svenga wants more alt text, like i want more alt text, this harassment of posters has to stop. if svenga doesn't understand that, they are hurting their own desires

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @gunchleoc @svenja

                            100%. i hovered over their profile before responding

                            how does that change the issue one bit?

                            if svenga wants more alt text, like i want more alt text, this harassment of posters has to stop. if svenga doesn't understand that, they are hurting their own desires

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                            #20

                            @benroyce @gunchleoc at least learn to write my Name right. bye

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                            • irisfreundin@troet.cafeI irisfreundin@troet.cafe

                              @benroyce

                              No ableistic people in my timeline --> mute

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                              #21

                              @Irisfreundin

                              i'm not an ableist you stupid loser

                              i'm trying to get more alt text by stopping concern trolling and harassment over alt text

                              you *help* by posting the alt text

                              if you make demands and backbite posters, you just drive them from mastodon

                              busy body controlling assholes *are not helping*. they are driving people from mastodon

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @svenja @sternentau

                                they wrote "More than three blind people following me" so no, liar

                                you don't get anything in this world harassing people

                                you get everything in this world by helping, and being nice

                                if certain assholes don't learn this, they are actively harming alt text adoption

                                do you understand? it's not fucking complicated

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                                #22

                                @benroyce
                                *sarcasm alert* What a shiny nice example of your own words you are. Wouldn't you also please tell us to smile a bit more, when we politely ask for a tiniest bit of inclusional solidarity?

                                @svenja @sternentau

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                                • svenja@mstdn.gamesS svenja@mstdn.games

                                  @benroyce @sternentau "if instead you harass the poster, they don't do alt text they leave mastodon because of busybody controlling assholes" don't thread me with having a good time without assholes who don't want to write Alttext.

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                                  #23

                                  @svenja @sternentau

                                  great

                                  so what you want is a mastodon where harassing concern trolls *getting off on their ego* don't help shit, they just drive people away

                                  1. someone post sthe alt text cheerfully

                                  2. the original poster understands and is happy to be corrected and learn

                                  3. next time they alt text themselves

                                  what you are voicing *does not increase alt text adoption*

                                  it just alienates

                                  i am arguing for more alt text adoption

                                  you are arguing for controlling assholes

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                                  • svenja@mstdn.gamesS svenja@mstdn.games

                                    @benroyce @gunchleoc at least learn to write my Name right. bye

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                                    #24

                                    @svenja @gunchleoc

                                    bye

                                    make sure to drive down alt text adoption by championing controlling busy body reply guys, instead of learning that doesn't fix shit, except some troll's ego problems

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @Irisfreundin

                                      i'm not an ableist you stupid loser

                                      i'm trying to get more alt text by stopping concern trolling and harassment over alt text

                                      you *help* by posting the alt text

                                      if you make demands and backbite posters, you just drive them from mastodon

                                      busy body controlling assholes *are not helping*. they are driving people from mastodon

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                                      #25

                                      @benroyce

                                      Mastodon does not need people who are ableistic. And your argumentation is.

                                      I hope that you'll not be accessed by an illness or accident, so that you'll feel what it means to cajole for help.

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                                      • isabelle_vannier@literatur.socialI isabelle_vannier@literatur.social

                                        @benroyce
                                        *sarcasm alert* What a shiny nice example of your own words you are. Wouldn't you also please tell us to smile a bit more, when we politely ask for a tiniest bit of inclusional solidarity?

                                        @svenja @sternentau

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                                        #26

                                        @Isabelle_Vannier @svenja @sternentau

                                        hey, lying asshole:

                                        concern trolling does not foster solidarity

                                        1. people help, the world gets better, social bonds strengthen

                                        vs

                                        2. people make demands rudely, nobody does alt text, mastodon becomes toxic and people leave

                                        it's not hard to understand. why don't you understand it

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                                        • irisfreundin@troet.cafeI irisfreundin@troet.cafe

                                          @benroyce

                                          Mastodon does not need people who are ableistic. And your argumentation is.

                                          I hope that you'll not be accessed by an illness or accident, so that you'll feel what it means to cajole for help.

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                                          #27

                                          @Irisfreundin

                                          my argumentation is not ableistic you fucking liar

                                          by goal is more alt text adoption

                                          you get that by helping, and being nice

                                          you get *less* alt text by making concern trolling demands

                                          it's not complicated

                                          why don't you understand the fucking obvious, liar

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