“zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”
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@zzt OMG
"AI isn’t just another tech trend — it’s at the heart of most apps, tools and technology we use today."
Literally not a single tool I use requires it, nor would I use it if it was forced into it."It enables remarkable things: new ways to create and collaborate and communicate."
No, it lies and doesn't help create anything. It is by design reactive."But AI is also letting us down"
You got me* there, Mozilla.Edit: *some people. My expectations for AI max out at zero, and the harms are large. So I'm speaking generally.
@eldersea @zzt yeah that got me as well, the second sentence and it is already complete nonsense.
Even for people that do regularly use AI, the majority of apps do not have "AI at their heart". And even if you constantly use AI tools, the vast majority of the technologies you use in your daily life are boring, battle-tested, old protocols like HTTP or SMTP etc., no AI involved.
It doesn't even make sense, and then the whole "Rebel Alliance" brain rot, I don't even know what to say. -
“zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”
please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)
note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.
"This report shares our progress and a roadmap in service of these goals. This includes the work of the Mozilla Foundation itself — a nonprofit doing cutting-edge innovation, advocacy and community building to develop a shared vision for what AI could be."
Oh, so the foundation no longer works for open web standards, thanks for the clarification
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“zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”
please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)
note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.
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@zzt mozilla used tailwind to build a website to talk about all the wonderful things they've done for the web
@fasterandworse @zzt I am afraid they might have had an LLM build their website.
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@zzt mozilla used tailwind to build a website to talk about all the wonderful things they've done for the web
@fasterandworse @zzt blargh.
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@fasterandworse @zzt I am afraid they might have had an LLM build their website.
This one perhaps?
https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/115734461744490161 -
@fasterandworse @zzt I am afraid they might have had an LLM build their website.
@tante @fasterandworse they do have a garbage product specifically for that: https://newproducts.mozilla.org/product/solo/
State of Mozilla feels like that plus another couple layers of slop from LLMs running rampant over the output, plus some animation-obsessed solo dev implementing the worst bits, like the intro and the, uhh, fake hacking screen that pops up if you intentionally fail the fake captcha 3 times
I’m attaching a photo of that last bit but it really does have to be seen in motion for full garbage
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“zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”
please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)
note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.
@zzt yeah that fake captcha is a pile of piss https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/115969754752982010
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@zzt "While we are still guided by full manifesto, five principles are especially relevant in the age of AI:"
*lists three*
Tell me your copy was written by AI without telling me.
@semievolved @c_9 @zzt just a quick skim told me it was AI-written, so I stopped. Waste of my time. #sad
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firefox users: please make the LLM features in firefox a non-default plugin, opt-in, or better yet don’t do them at all
mozilla: DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS. slop is destroying the web! *posts a bunch of slop videos and text in an annual corporate update*
mozilla staff: we asked our community and they hallucinated that they don’t like AI even though we prompted them to not hallucinate.
mozilla’s remaining fan: why are you so angry at my best friend mozilla. stop being unreasonable.
@zzt I use Mozilla because it's not based on Chrome/Chromium code. And it still supports all the add-ons that Chrome banished, like download managers, right-click re-enablers, uBO...
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firefox users: please make the LLM features in firefox a non-default plugin, opt-in, or better yet don’t do them at all
mozilla: DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS. slop is destroying the web! *posts a bunch of slop videos and text in an annual corporate update*
mozilla staff: we asked our community and they hallucinated that they don’t like AI even though we prompted them to not hallucinate.
mozilla’s remaining fan: why are you so angry at my best friend mozilla. stop being unreasonable.
@zzt I do absolutely want AI to be out of the hands of tech capital and in the hands of everyone. However, I don't want AI to be part of my browser. I want AI to be something separate, and entirely different application that I can start when I want to use it and that I can close when I'm done. I don't want an "assistant", I don't want an "agent", I can write bash scripts for most of that and Python for the more complicated stuff. I want specific AI tools that do only one thing, and that thing as efficiently as possible, and I want them to run only when called for.
GenAI plugins for Gimp or Krita are nice, as long as the diffusion models run locally, even if they take a while to render.
But why would I want AI in my browser? The web is a dangerous place full of phishing and XSS and things like that, I don't need to add prompt injection vulnerabilities. -
“zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”
please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)
note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.
@zzt oh, wow.
I went in cautious because of the warnings. But even with the luck of avoiding nerve damage from a flashing screen, that was worse than I was prepared for. It was like a team in a bleached office tried to reproduce the creative energy of a bunch of indie ziners working independently in a themed jam.
Mozilla put that bland and soulless mess of fakery out to the public on purpose. Wow.
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“zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”
please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)
note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.
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@promovicz mozilla has found the second, secret bottom of the barrel hidden under the first bottom of the barrel
and they used the slop contained within to generate the State of Mozilla!
@zzt
I was tempted to make a joke about that other thing with a double-bottom, the Titanic.
I won’t because „what if something shivs the ship from stem to midships?“ actually was an edge case outside the design parameters and not an LLM-extruded //TODOWell, maybe someone will make a heartrending film about Mozilla 85 years later…
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“zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”
please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)
note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.
@zzt the amount of em dashes in that article is incredible.
Sure, it may be written by a human who likes to use them, but I find that unlikely given the context -
“zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”
please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)
note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.
@zzt@mas.to EEEK!
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@fasterandworse @zzt I am afraid they might have had an LLM build their website.
@tante @fasterandworse @zzt It's a good indicator, yeah. Figma's Make generates shit like this.
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@zzt "While we are still guided by full manifesto, five principles are especially relevant in the age of AI:"
*lists three*
Tell me your copy was written by AI without telling me.
@semievolved @zzt *akchually*, I think there are "five principles" but distributed in 3 bullet points (yeah i know it's stupid) :
- HUMAN AGENCY
- DECENTRALIZATION
- OPEN SOURCE
- BALANCING COMMERCIAL
- PUBLIC BENEFITBut don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating for Big M, this thing is next level slop BS and I hate it
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