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  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

    “zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”

    please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)

    note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.

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    #69

    @zzt what... what was that. It feels so weird and disconnected.

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    • tehstu@hachyderm.ioT tehstu@hachyderm.io

      @semievolved @zzt Did they edit it? I no longer see that line. Seems they also turned off the horrendous autoplaying video, too.

      Hope someone archived it.

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      #70

      @tehstu Still there. It's in the Manifesto section, if you can hold your nose long enough to get there.

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      • errant@mastodon.sdf.orgE errant@mastodon.sdf.org

        @zzt @semievolved This has very strong "Hello fellow kids" vibes.

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        #71

        @errant it's reading "Uncanny Gen-X" to me. Like- the basics elements of that style are there, but it's not put together right. Kind of cold and flat feeling, if that makes sense. @zzt @semievolved

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        • errant@mastodon.sdf.orgE errant@mastodon.sdf.org

          @zzt @semievolved This has very strong "Hello fellow kids" vibes.

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          #72

          @errant

          "Put a cute panda on it because there's nothing evil about getting people to use your crappy product by guilt tripping them with a cute mascot."

          @zzt @semievolved

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          • womble@infosec.exchangeW womble@infosec.exchange

            @seekingfreedom we're all just cost centres to the capitalist class. You get treated as valuable for only as long as they haven't figured out a way to get by without you.

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            #73

            @womble Too true 💯

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            • chillicampari@layer8.spaceC chillicampari@layer8.space

              @errant it's reading "Uncanny Gen-X" to me. Like- the basics elements of that style are there, but it's not put together right. Kind of cold and flat feeling, if that makes sense. @zzt @semievolved

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              #74

              @chillicampari That mirror-world feeling is because all of it is AI-generated. Some sloperator gave ChatGPT a chance to pretend it was an old-timey BBS. @errant @zzt

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              • semievolved@wandering.shopS semievolved@wandering.shop

                @chillicampari That mirror-world feeling is because all of it is AI-generated. Some sloperator gave ChatGPT a chance to pretend it was an old-timey BBS. @errant @zzt

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                #75

                @semievolved yep @errant @zzt

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                • eldersea@expressional.socialE eldersea@expressional.social

                  @zzt OMG

                  "AI isn’t just another tech trend — it’s at the heart of most apps, tools and technology we use today."
                  Literally not a single tool I use requires it, nor would I use it if it was forced into it.

                  "It enables remarkable things: new ways to create and collaborate and communicate."
                  No, it lies and doesn't help create anything. It is by design reactive.

                  "But AI is also letting us down"
                  You got me* there, Mozilla.

                  Edit: *some people. My expectations for AI max out at zero, and the harms are large. So I'm speaking generally.

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                  #76

                  @eldersea @zzt yeah that got me as well, the second sentence and it is already complete nonsense.
                  Even for people that do regularly use AI, the majority of apps do not have "AI at their heart". And even if you constantly use AI tools, the vast majority of the technologies you use in your daily life are boring, battle-tested, old protocols like HTTP or SMTP etc., no AI involved.
                  It doesn't even make sense, and then the whole "Rebel Alliance" brain rot, I don't even know what to say.

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                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                    “zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”

                    please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)

                    note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.

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                    #77

                    @zzt

                    "This report shares our progress and a roadmap in service of these goals. This includes the work of the Mozilla Foundation itself — a nonprofit doing cutting-edge innovation, advocacy and community building to develop a shared vision for what AI could be."

                    Oh, so the foundation no longer works for open web standards, thanks for the clarification 🙂

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                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                      “zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”

                      please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)

                      note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.

                      memoria@wetdry.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #78

                      @zzt fun game: drink a shot for every em dash

                      10 minutes later

                      🏥 🚑

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                      • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                        @zzt mozilla used tailwind to build a website to talk about all the wonderful things they've done for the web

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                        #79

                        @fasterandworse @zzt I am afraid they might have had an LLM build their website.

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                        • fasterandworse@hci.socialF fasterandworse@hci.social

                          @zzt mozilla used tailwind to build a website to talk about all the wonderful things they've done for the web

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                          #80

                          @fasterandworse @zzt blargh.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            @fasterandworse @zzt I am afraid they might have had an LLM build their website.

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                            #81

                            @tante @fasterandworse @zzt

                            This one perhaps?
                            https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/115734461744490161

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                            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                              @fasterandworse @zzt I am afraid they might have had an LLM build their website.

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                              #82

                              @tante @fasterandworse they do have a garbage product specifically for that: https://newproducts.mozilla.org/product/solo/

                              State of Mozilla feels like that plus another couple layers of slop from LLMs running rampant over the output, plus some animation-obsessed solo dev implementing the worst bits, like the intro and the, uhh, fake hacking screen that pops up if you intentionally fail the fake captcha 3 times

                              I’m attaching a photo of that last bit but it really does have to be seen in motion for full garbage

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                              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                “zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”

                                please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)

                                note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.

                                urlyman@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #83

                                @zzt yeah that fake captcha is a pile of piss https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/115969754752982010

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                                • semievolved@wandering.shopS semievolved@wandering.shop

                                  @zzt "While we are still guided by full manifesto, five principles are especially relevant in the age of AI:"

                                  *lists three*

                                  Tell me your copy was written by AI without telling me.

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                                  #84

                                  @semievolved @c_9 @zzt just a quick skim told me it was AI-written, so I stopped. Waste of my time. #sad

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                                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                    firefox users: please make the LLM features in firefox a non-default plugin, opt-in, or better yet don’t do them at all

                                    mozilla: DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS. slop is destroying the web! *posts a bunch of slop videos and text in an annual corporate update*

                                    mozilla staff: we asked our community and they hallucinated that they don’t like AI even though we prompted them to not hallucinate.

                                    mozilla’s remaining fan: why are you so angry at my best friend mozilla. stop being unreasonable.

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                                    #85

                                    @zzt I use Mozilla because it's not based on Chrome/Chromium code. And it still supports all the add-ons that Chrome banished, like download managers, right-click re-enablers, uBO...

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                                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                      firefox users: please make the LLM features in firefox a non-default plugin, opt-in, or better yet don’t do them at all

                                      mozilla: DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS. slop is destroying the web! *posts a bunch of slop videos and text in an annual corporate update*

                                      mozilla staff: we asked our community and they hallucinated that they don’t like AI even though we prompted them to not hallucinate.

                                      mozilla’s remaining fan: why are you so angry at my best friend mozilla. stop being unreasonable.

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                                      #86

                                      @zzt I do absolutely want AI to be out of the hands of tech capital and in the hands of everyone. However, I don't want AI to be part of my browser. I want AI to be something separate, and entirely different application that I can start when I want to use it and that I can close when I'm done. I don't want an "assistant", I don't want an "agent", I can write bash scripts for most of that and Python for the more complicated stuff. I want specific AI tools that do only one thing, and that thing as efficiently as possible, and I want them to run only when called for.

                                      GenAI plugins for Gimp or Krita are nice, as long as the diffusion models run locally, even if they take a while to render.
                                      But why would I want AI in my browser? The web is a dangerous place full of phishing and XSS and things like that, I don't need to add prompt injection vulnerabilities.

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                                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                        “zzt how dare you accuse Mozilla employees of suffering from very obvious LLM psychosis”

                                        please “enjoy” the State of Mozilla, one of the least hinged things I’ve seen released with pride by an established corporation: https://stateof.mozilla.org/ (epilepsy warning)

                                        note the 2001-style not-Flash intro. the fake captcha. the timecube-esque prattle about AI threatening humanity. “DO NOT ACCEPT DEFAULT SETTINGS”. the ASCII art cop finger in the footer of the main page. all of it. what in fuck is this.

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                                        #87

                                        @zzt oh, wow.

                                        I went in cautious because of the warnings. But even with the luck of avoiding nerve damage from a flashing screen, that was worse than I was prepared for. It was like a team in a bleached office tried to reproduce the creative energy of a bunch of indie ziners working independently in a themed jam.

                                        Mozilla put that bland and soulless mess of fakery out to the public on purpose. Wow.

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                                        • memoria@wetdry.worldM memoria@wetdry.world

                                          @zzt fun game: drink a shot for every em dash

                                          10 minutes later

                                          🏥 🚑

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                                          #88

                                          @memoria @zzt

                                          This is seriously making me reconsider every em dash in my current short story draft.

                                          WTF, Mozilla.

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