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The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”.

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  • alexanderdyas@mindly.socialA alexanderdyas@mindly.social

    @mullvadnet How on earth is this even enforceable?

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    #60

    @alexanderdyas @mullvadnet Yeah, I don’t get it. How is the government going to prevent people from downloading VPN software?

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    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

      The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

      A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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      #61

      @mullvadnet if youre able to add some actions to the thread, that would be helpful. i.e., what users in the uk can do

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      • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

        The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

        A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

        wsa@rebel.arW This user is from outside of this forum
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        #62

        @mullvadnet I challenge all of you to do something about it, you may thing that posting stuff online is enough, but you should be coordinated enough to rise against your own government in case v for vendetta fascism levels are present or some sort of pre-1984 fascism stages are met.

        We have mesh networks, ESP8266, several IoT devices, vpns, yggdrasil protocol, E2EE, what is stoping you from coordinate and start social movements, are you all waiting to be on your knees with a boot?

        I recommend reading books on subjectivity colonization.

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        • sundew@beige.partyS sundew@beige.party

          @nuwagaba2 @mullvadnet Both join, and vote for, the Green party.

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          #63

          @sundew
          That's great. But are people over there aware that they're being enslaved?

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          • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

            The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

            A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

            paoloredaelli@mastodon.unoP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #64

            @mullvadnet
            Anyone must get #Tor ASAP.
            I invite those who has a VPS to set up a #tornode
            Ideally we shall also get #i2p but that's more complex to use

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            • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

              The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

              A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

              ggrey@social.thelab.unoG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #65

              @mullvadnet

              I have already setup a Wireguard VPN on one over my VPS, no questions asked 😉

              zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ evgandr@mastodon.bsd.cafeE 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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              • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                @sundew
                That's great. But are people over there aware that they're being enslaved?

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                #66

                @nuwagaba2 @sundew UK here. mostly not.

                what doesn't help is that, if we really do have a national personality trait, it's "grit your teeth and bear it". (compare to france where it's "set fire to cars until they stop".)

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                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                  The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                  A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                  #67

                  @mullvadnet Wait a sec, don’t online banks all use VPN’s? And most work from home setups?

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                  • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                    @nuwagaba2 @sundew UK here. mostly not.

                    what doesn't help is that, if we really do have a national personality trait, it's "grit your teeth and bear it". (compare to france where it's "set fire to cars until they stop".)

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                    #68

                    @fishidwardrobe
                    What can open their eyes to see the reality?

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                    • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                      @fishidwardrobe
                      What can open their eyes to see the reality?

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                      #69

                      @nuwagaba2 damned if i know. all the right-wing, billionaire-owned, nutcase newspapers starting a campaign against it, maybe?

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                      • lemlems@mastodon.socialL lemlems@mastodon.social

                        @mullvadnet

                        Let me guess - the verification will be done by Palantir? Really not enjoying feeling like I’m living in Alan Moore’s fever dream

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                        #70
                        @mullvadnet@mastodon.online @Lemlems@mastodon.social obviously Peter Thiel's company, Persona. Zionists help Zionists after all
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                        • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                          @nuwagaba2 damned if i know. all the right-wing, billionaire-owned, nutcase newspapers starting a campaign against it, maybe?

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                          #71

                          @fishidwardrobe
                          Will those billionaires allow that to happen?

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                          • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                            The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                            A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                            kdra@puntarella.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #72

                            @mullvadnet what about age verification to access age verification?

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                            • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                              @fishidwardrobe
                              Will those billionaires allow that to happen?

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                              #73

                              @nuwagaba2 well, they are not entirely rational. Billionaires are not always smart. but that makes them hard to predict.

                              they won't like our current government, it's "left wing" (it isn't); so they might want to stir up trouble against it. But in general they have no interest in looking after regular people.

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                              • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                @nuwagaba2 well, they are not entirely rational. Billionaires are not always smart. but that makes them hard to predict.

                                they won't like our current government, it's "left wing" (it isn't); so they might want to stir up trouble against it. But in general they have no interest in looking after regular people.

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                                #74

                                @fishidwardrobe
                                Who will then save the regular people?

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                                • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                                  @fishidwardrobe
                                  Who will then save the regular people?

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                                  #75

                                  @nuwagaba2 ::shrugs:: wish i knew

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                                  • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                    @nuwagaba2 ::shrugs:: wish i knew

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                                    #76

                                    @fishidwardrobe
                                    Of course the regular people are the ones to save themselves. The biggest challenge is whether they know of what's coming before them. Are they aware of that?

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                                    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                      The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                      A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                                      rastal@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #77

                                      @mullvadnet To be fair, Whistleblowers should be using a more secure setup than just a VPN.

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                                      • dotfox@mastodon.socialD dotfox@mastodon.social

                                        @mullvadnet curious timing. just about an hour ago I forged and verified my first zero knowledge proof that can tell the verifier that proof holder was born before a certain timestamp (aka. older than N years) at the same time reveling absolutely (!) nothing about proof holders, not even those who authorize it.

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                                        #78

                                        @dotfox @mullvadnet But I'm guessing the verification called home to let someone know which app/service you verified with, or is someone making an authorication service that doesn't need that? If so, which one?

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                                        • P paranormal_distribution@fosstodon.org

                                          @dotfox @mullvadnet But I'm guessing the verification called home to let someone know which app/service you verified with, or is someone making an authorication service that doesn't need that? If so, which one?

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                                          #79

                                          @paranormal_distribution No one. The presenter asks the verifier to publish their constraints — the trusted root authorities and the current revocation list (one way hashed). The presenter then forges two proofs locally: "I hold a valid capability delegated to me only" and "no intermediate delegator in my chain is revoked, and the delegation chain starts from a trusted root". The verifier checks both proofs against the published roots — no callback, no identity disclosure, no phone-home.

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