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  • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

    @GlasWolf @mullvadnet
    The only reason I'd call that unlikely is the same reason there's any danger from Reform at all: we don't have PR.

    In a first-past-the-post system, the two far right parties are going to be parasitising and splitting each other's votes in most constituencies.

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    #58

    @petealexharris @GlasWolf @mullvadnet yeah it's important to remember that, whilst yes trending-down-from-30% polling figures are kinda terrifying, it really doesn't translate to 30% seats at all, especially when unlike the LibDems they don't ‘know how to play the game’.

    It's still plausible enough they end up the largest seat bloc, or close to, but in practise an outright majority is unlikely — so it all come down to some sorta deal with the Tories most probably.

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    • zbrown@floss.socialZ zbrown@floss.social

      @petealexharris @GlasWolf @mullvadnet yeah it's important to remember that, whilst yes trending-down-from-30% polling figures are kinda terrifying, it really doesn't translate to 30% seats at all, especially when unlike the LibDems they don't ‘know how to play the game’.

      It's still plausible enough they end up the largest seat bloc, or close to, but in practise an outright majority is unlikely — so it all come down to some sorta deal with the Tories most probably.

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      #59

      @petealexharris @GlasWolf @mullvadnet and yeah, one can only hope people will be sensible enough before or after the election to come together as a democratic alliance and beat them to the Palace.

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      • alexanderdyas@mindly.socialA alexanderdyas@mindly.social

        @mullvadnet How on earth is this even enforceable?

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        #60

        @alexanderdyas @mullvadnet Yeah, I don’t get it. How is the government going to prevent people from downloading VPN software?

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        • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

          The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

          A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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          #61

          @mullvadnet if youre able to add some actions to the thread, that would be helpful. i.e., what users in the uk can do

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          • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

            The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

            A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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            #62

            @mullvadnet I challenge all of you to do something about it, you may thing that posting stuff online is enough, but you should be coordinated enough to rise against your own government in case v for vendetta fascism levels are present or some sort of pre-1984 fascism stages are met.

            We have mesh networks, ESP8266, several IoT devices, vpns, yggdrasil protocol, E2EE, what is stoping you from coordinate and start social movements, are you all waiting to be on your knees with a boot?

            I recommend reading books on subjectivity colonization.

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            • sundew@beige.partyS sundew@beige.party

              @nuwagaba2 @mullvadnet Both join, and vote for, the Green party.

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              #63

              @sundew
              That's great. But are people over there aware that they're being enslaved?

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              • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                #64

                @mullvadnet
                Anyone must get #Tor ASAP.
                I invite those who has a VPS to set up a #tornode
                Ideally we shall also get #i2p but that's more complex to use

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                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                  The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                  A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                  #65

                  @mullvadnet

                  I have already setup a Wireguard VPN on one over my VPS, no questions asked 😉

                  zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ evgandr@mastodon.bsd.cafeE 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                  • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                    @sundew
                    That's great. But are people over there aware that they're being enslaved?

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                    #66

                    @nuwagaba2 @sundew UK here. mostly not.

                    what doesn't help is that, if we really do have a national personality trait, it's "grit your teeth and bear it". (compare to france where it's "set fire to cars until they stop".)

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                    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                      The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                      A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                      #67

                      @mullvadnet Wait a sec, don’t online banks all use VPN’s? And most work from home setups?

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                      • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                        @nuwagaba2 @sundew UK here. mostly not.

                        what doesn't help is that, if we really do have a national personality trait, it's "grit your teeth and bear it". (compare to france where it's "set fire to cars until they stop".)

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                        #68

                        @fishidwardrobe
                        What can open their eyes to see the reality?

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                        • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                          @fishidwardrobe
                          What can open their eyes to see the reality?

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                          #69

                          @nuwagaba2 damned if i know. all the right-wing, billionaire-owned, nutcase newspapers starting a campaign against it, maybe?

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                          • lemlems@mastodon.socialL lemlems@mastodon.social

                            @mullvadnet

                            Let me guess - the verification will be done by Palantir? Really not enjoying feeling like I’m living in Alan Moore’s fever dream

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                            #70
                            @mullvadnet@mastodon.online @Lemlems@mastodon.social obviously Peter Thiel's company, Persona. Zionists help Zionists after all
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                            • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                              @nuwagaba2 damned if i know. all the right-wing, billionaire-owned, nutcase newspapers starting a campaign against it, maybe?

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                              #71

                              @fishidwardrobe
                              Will those billionaires allow that to happen?

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                              • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                                #72

                                @mullvadnet what about age verification to access age verification?

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                                • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                                  @fishidwardrobe
                                  Will those billionaires allow that to happen?

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                                  #73

                                  @nuwagaba2 well, they are not entirely rational. Billionaires are not always smart. but that makes them hard to predict.

                                  they won't like our current government, it's "left wing" (it isn't); so they might want to stir up trouble against it. But in general they have no interest in looking after regular people.

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                                  • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                    @nuwagaba2 well, they are not entirely rational. Billionaires are not always smart. but that makes them hard to predict.

                                    they won't like our current government, it's "left wing" (it isn't); so they might want to stir up trouble against it. But in general they have no interest in looking after regular people.

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                                    #74

                                    @fishidwardrobe
                                    Who will then save the regular people?

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                                    • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                                      @fishidwardrobe
                                      Who will then save the regular people?

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                                      #75

                                      @nuwagaba2 ::shrugs:: wish i knew

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                                      • fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.ukF fishidwardrobe@mastodon.me.uk

                                        @nuwagaba2 ::shrugs:: wish i knew

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                                        #76

                                        @fishidwardrobe
                                        Of course the regular people are the ones to save themselves. The biggest challenge is whether they know of what's coming before them. Are they aware of that?

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                                        • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                          The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                          A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                                          #77

                                          @mullvadnet To be fair, Whistleblowers should be using a more secure setup than just a VPN.

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