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If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check.

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  • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

    @nina_kali_nina

    Does the "maybe" depend on instance size? or reach?

    Thinking aloud - it can't be instance size because you can theoretically reach people beyond your instance.

    I think age verification is a good thing. If it can be done in a privacy preserving way - and that, for me, is the issue.

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    #25

    @charlesdelavalleepoussin the answer, in case of the UK, lies in a 2000-page-long document. The topic is complicated, and I'm not qualified to talk about it in depth, unfortunately.

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    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

      If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

      https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

      lierschit@mastodon.liersch.itL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #26

      @nina_kali_nina One more reason, to delete my #Discord Account i didnt even used entirely. If I am chatting friends, I am using this old software named #Teamspeak 3.

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      • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

        @nina_kali_nina

        Does the "maybe" depend on instance size? or reach?

        Thinking aloud - it can't be instance size because you can theoretically reach people beyond your instance.

        I think age verification is a good thing. If it can be done in a privacy preserving way - and that, for me, is the issue.

        ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #27

        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @nina_kali_nina Age verification is not in fact a good thing, and it's inherently impossible to implement in a private manner.

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        • ariarhythmic@ohai.socialA ariarhythmic@ohai.social

          @charlesdelavalleepoussin @nina_kali_nina Age verification is not in fact a good thing, and it's inherently impossible to implement in a private manner.

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          #28

          @ariarhythmic @nina_kali_nina

          I'm no expert but we do check age when selling alcohol, vapes or knives in shops.

          In a shop the vendor looks at the photo ID (eg student card, driving license, other) but does not keep it.

          That seems to be a proportionate approach.

          Sadly I don't know of anything equivalent in the digital world.

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          • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

            If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

            https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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            #29

            @nina_kali_nina

            There's a line in an old punk song that I sing in my head when I see this stuff.

            'The shit we have to climb through is the shit we choose to take'

            Choose to take this, then it's your shit to climb through for a long time. The next choice will be harder.

            Your choices matter to your future. Make an actual choice, an actual active sacrifice.

            Your and you is personal and collective.

            Choose how & who you want to live as. Right choices cost less than easy ones in the end.

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            • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

              If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

              https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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              #30

              @nina_kali_nina this is even more worrisome as Discord "experiments" with collecting data on users' gender, https://www.dexerto.com/tech/discord-is-allegedly-assigning-gender-to-users-with-machine-learning-ai-2721391/
              Ties to Thiel and through that, Palantir, mean there's a risk of using it as a surveillance tool to gather information on trans people for potential search-and-destroy operations.

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              • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                #31

                @nina_kali_nina please support me 🌿🙏🇵🇸🍉👨‍👩‍👧‍👦

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                • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                  If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                  https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

                  maltita@neopaquita.esM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #32

                  @nina_kali_nina christ on a bike

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                  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                    If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                    https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                    #33

                    @nina_kali_nina Does anyone find it Curious that ''Palantir'' is an Object of ''Sorcery'' in the Lord of the Rings? who are these guys?🤔

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                    • sonlight@mastodon.socialS sonlight@mastodon.social

                      @nina_kali_nina Does anyone find it Curious that ''Palantir'' is an Object of ''Sorcery'' in the Lord of the Rings? who are these guys?🤔

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                      #34

                      @Sonlight there's a long tradition of naming creepy companies after creepy things from Tolkien ;(

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                      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                        @charlesdelavalleepoussin the answer, in case of the UK, lies in a 2000-page-long document. The topic is complicated, and I'm not qualified to talk about it in depth, unfortunately.

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                        #35
                        @nina_kali_nina @charlesdelavalleepoussin Basically some countries will no longer have clearnet instances.
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                        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                          If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                          https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                          #36

                          @nina_kali_nina

                          I joined Discord because a blog suggested it would be great for meeting others doing research on genealogy.

                          It's been noisy and useless and I haven't used it for years.

                          It's a good time to delete the account.

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                          • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                            If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                            https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                            #37

                            @nina_kali_nina the.real.satan

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                            • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                              If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                              https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                              #38

                              @nina_kali_nina from my observation: gamers have a alt-right leaning, i am affraid they will not / won’t mind

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                              • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                                https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                                #39

                                @nina_kali_nina There are reasons why my #Facebook profile picture has been a caricature for years.

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                                • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz
                                  @nina_kali_nina @charlesdelavalleepoussin Basically some countries will no longer have clearnet instances.
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                                  #40

                                  @lispi314 @nina_kali_nina

                                  what is 'clearnet" ?

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                                  • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                                    @lispi314 @nina_kali_nina

                                    what is 'clearnet" ?

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                                    #41

                                    @charlesdelavalleepoussin @lispi314 normal public internet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearnet_(networking)

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                                    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                      If you somehow still considered uploading your face/ID to Discord, here's one more reason not to: Peter Thiel seems to be the lead investor in the service that implements the age check. And, oh, the service page says they will store our data on their side (at least for a little while).

                                      https://www.pcgamer.com/software/platforms/oh-good-discords-age-verification-rollout-has-ties-to-palantir-co-founder-and-panopticon-architect-peter-thiel/

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                                      #42

                                      @nina_kali_nina Evidently there's an accord to dis cords now...

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                                      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                        @charlesdelavalleepoussin @lispi314 normal public internet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearnet_(networking)

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                                        #43

                                        @nina_kali_nina @lispi314

                                        oh ok.

                                        I would urge readers not to have blind faith in things like Signal or Tor.

                                        This is from 2013, over a decade ago, they've advanced since:

                                        "The National Security Agency (“NSA”) has developed techniques to circumvent the anonymity offered by the Tor network. "

                                        src: https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/snowden-documents-reveal-nsa-attempts-to-track-tor-users

                                        #surveillance #tech #privacy

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                                        • charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.socialC charlesdelavalleepoussin@mastodon.social

                                          @nina_kali_nina @lispi314

                                          oh ok.

                                          I would urge readers not to have blind faith in things like Signal or Tor.

                                          This is from 2013, over a decade ago, they've advanced since:

                                          "The National Security Agency (“NSA”) has developed techniques to circumvent the anonymity offered by the Tor network. "

                                          src: https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/snowden-documents-reveal-nsa-attempts-to-track-tor-users

                                          #surveillance #tech #privacy

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                                          #44

                                          @charlesdelavalleepoussin @lispi314 well, it's less about this, and more about "there is no internet unless you login with your account tied to your passport" which is pretty bad

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