Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
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@nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social I think some context might have got lost. Your initial question was if the fediverse was created in Europe. To which the answer is that the protocol wasn't, but the software that made it famous was, especially during that initial growth period.
Of course it's a lot more diverse nowadays and that diversity keeps increasing. One of the biggest seeds was and still is European though -
Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them.
@hpod16 it is not the problem . Facebook is the only one who is about people you known rather then artists, celebrities , companies etx
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 ...and then propose a new proprietary network "W"
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@nebby@is.not-a.top @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social as I've said in my other reply: Masto started German. It evolved over time, like most foss projects and is now a lot more international
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 Ugh, I - as an American citizen - am so jealous. I have never in my thirty-year career in IT/Technology seen any unit of the American government make a non-terrible software/solution recommendation.
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 - is the European Commission in a position to more actively help make onboarding easier? Would be amazing if they could go beyond just referring people to the existing documentation.
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Yeah, what the Commission answered here isn't quite what they asked.
But with a generous reading, still an opportunity to promote the Fediverse. -
Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 one cannot blame them at all. Facebook, X, Instagram, and similar platforms owned by large IT companies rely on ease of use and comercial stuff to remain popular.
For good, alternatives like Mastodon remain social because they rely on recommendation rather than profit.
I try to carry my friends here, while looking for new ones (the second, being the easier).
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I read it like the person who asked wanted a silo while the EU Commission social media people answered with the actually open alternative. Like even if there were Fedi servers that allow only people verified to be EU citizens (or residents), one could still interact with all the world across servers.
@project1enigma @hpod16 @moftasa The moderators on the proposed EU centric server can be very strict about allowing engagement from the USA. Some USA based servers allow hateful content, others don't. The mods can block entire servers that are lax about allowing such negativity while still allowing engagement from "nice" servers. I imagine the original requester might be okay with that? Otherwise, yes, an EU server *could* be created that blocks literally EVERYTHING that isn't EU.
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"
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@project1enigma @lucien @hpod16 I have no clue about UX or how it works. Years ago I had an account on Twitter, before the Boer bought it. They had no app on F-Droid, so I used the web interfacewhich wasn't really better than Mastodon's in my opinion.
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@hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"
@xinit gosh I hope that’s not what they meant.
Maybe the social media manager was just a bit too excited about mastodon and looking for a way to promote it. -
@stefan @hpod16 BlueSky has 4 Million active monthly users too. Lot of Gaming, Cats. And they cracked down on the hate. The moderators issued warnings about that and it slowly stopped. Companies do not like hate, they know people from all demographics use their product. That is something hateful people don't realize.
@MissWarcraft @stefan @hpod16 they didn't crack down on the hate, they still allow transphobic harassment, they still allow fascists and nazis, and the people running the company are transphobes. jay even made up new transphobic memes for her nazi friends
bluesky isn't a friend to the marginalized
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@xinit gosh I hope that’s not what they meant.
Maybe the social media manager was just a bit too excited about mastodon and looking for a way to promote it.@hpod16 To be clear, the EU Commission is fine, it's the redacted person demanding the 'citizens-only' one that reads oddly to me.
I might just be cynical
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@hpod16 To be clear, the EU Commission is fine, it's the redacted person demanding the 'citizens-only' one that reads oddly to me.
I might just be cynical
@xinit I know I know. To be honest, I didn’t notice that part when I first read the comment, and slightly cringing about the phrasing now. When you handle thousands of comments per day your brain gets a bit muddled. So I kind of hope people stop noticing.
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@hpod16 the problem is that the same people that don't know will run into lots of UX issues when trying Fediverse. I know a few sadly...
@lucien @hpod16 I solution for the "Server choosing" problem can be https://fedidb.com/welcome
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@hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 oh wow. They actually put their money where their mouths are 🫶
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@hpod16 was the fediverse created in europe? it's insane to say this when the technology itself is being mantained and expanded by people all around the world, including americans, asians, south americans, africans, etc.
@nelson Mastodon is developed in Germany, Peertube in France.
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(Also apparently Africa, Asia, and the rest of the Americas apparently do not matter, but I digress)