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  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

    Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
    The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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    #100

    @hpod16 Ugh, I - as an American citizen - am so jealous. I have never in my thirty-year career in IT/Technology seen any unit of the American government make a non-terrible software/solution recommendation.

    👍 Well don.e

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    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

      Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
      The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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      #101

      @hpod16 - is the European Commission in a position to more actively help make onboarding easier? Would be amazing if they could go beyond just referring people to the existing documentation.

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      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

        @moftasa
        Yeah, what the Commission answered here isn't quite what they asked.
        But with a generous reading, still an opportunity to promote the Fediverse.

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        #102

        @hpod16 @moftasa It shouldn't really matter, though. The server may be EU based and only open to EU citizens to register, but it's not a "silo". It's simply one's home base. Other than server block lists implemented by the server's moderators, you can engage with anyone, anywhere, in the Fediverse.

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        • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

          Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
          The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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          #103

          @hpod16 one cannot blame them at all. Facebook, X, Instagram, and similar platforms owned by large IT companies rely on ease of use and comercial stuff to remain popular.

          For good, alternatives like Mastodon remain social because they rely on recommendation rather than profit.

          I try to carry my friends here, while looking for new ones (the second, being the easier).

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          • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

            @hpod16 @moftasa

            I read it like the person who asked wanted a silo while the EU Commission social media people answered with the actually open alternative. Like even if there were Fedi servers that allow only people verified to be EU citizens (or residents), one could still interact with all the world across servers.

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            #104

            @project1enigma @hpod16 @moftasa The moderators on the proposed EU centric server can be very strict about allowing engagement from the USA. Some USA based servers allow hateful content, others don't. The mods can block entire servers that are lax about allowing such negativity while still allowing engagement from "nice" servers. I imagine the original requester might be okay with that? Otherwise, yes, an EU server *could* be created that blocks literally EVERYTHING that isn't EU.

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            • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

              Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
              The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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              #105

              @hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"

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              • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                @benny @lucien @hpod16

                But is UX better there now?

                I can only speak for Bluesky and on mobile it's horrible.

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                #106

                @project1enigma @lucien @hpod16 I have no clue about UX or how it works. Years ago I had an account on Twitter, before the Boer bought it. They had no app on F-Droid, so I used the web interfacewhich wasn't really better than Mastodon's in my opinion.

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                • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                  @hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"

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                  #107

                  @xinit gosh I hope that’s not what they meant.
                  Maybe the social media manager was just a bit too excited about mastodon and looking for a way to promote it.

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                  • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

                    @stefan @hpod16 BlueSky has 4 Million active monthly users too. Lot of Gaming, Cats. And they cracked down on the hate. The moderators issued warnings about that and it slowly stopped. Companies do not like hate, they know people from all demographics use their product. That is something hateful people don't realize.

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                    #108

                    @MissWarcraft @stefan @hpod16 they didn't crack down on the hate, they still allow transphobic harassment, they still allow fascists and nazis, and the people running the company are transphobes. jay even made up new transphobic memes for her nazi friends

                    bluesky isn't a friend to the marginalized

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                    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                      @xinit gosh I hope that’s not what they meant.
                      Maybe the social media manager was just a bit too excited about mastodon and looking for a way to promote it.

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                      #109

                      @hpod16 To be clear, the EU Commission is fine, it's the redacted person demanding the 'citizens-only' one that reads oddly to me.

                      I might just be cynical 😄

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                      • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                        @hpod16 To be clear, the EU Commission is fine, it's the redacted person demanding the 'citizens-only' one that reads oddly to me.

                        I might just be cynical 😄

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                        #110

                        @xinit I know I know. To be honest, I didn’t notice that part when I first read the comment, and slightly cringing about the phrasing now. When you handle thousands of comments per day your brain gets a bit muddled. So I kind of hope people stop noticing. 🤣💜

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                        • lucien@toot.communityL lucien@toot.community

                          @hpod16 the problem is that the same people that don't know will run into lots of UX issues when trying Fediverse. I know a few sadly...

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                          #111

                          @lucien @hpod16 I solution for the "Server choosing" problem can be https://fedidb.com/welcome

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                          • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                            @hpod16 I'd go out on a limb to suggest that "EU citizen only" means "no foreigners, no migrants"

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                            #112

                            @hpod16 @xinit well as everyone knows, the EU definitely doesn't have any problems with hate and division, it's exclusively a US problem. 🙄 (Also apparently Africa, Asia, and the rest of the Americas apparently do not matter, but I digress)

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                            • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                              Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                              The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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                              #113

                              @hpod16 oh wow. They actually put their money where their mouths are 🫶

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                              • nelson@wetdry.worldN nelson@wetdry.world

                                @hpod16 was the fediverse created in europe? it's insane to say this when the technology itself is being mantained and expanded by people all around the world, including americans, asians, south americans, africans, etc.

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                                #114

                                @nelson Mastodon is developed in Germany, Peertube in France.

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                                • gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.deG gelbphoenix@social.gelbphoenix.de

                                  @nelson Mastodon is developed in Germany, Peertube in France.

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                                  #115

                                  @gelbphoenix misskey is developed in japan, sharkey is developed by people in north america, and both pixelfed and loops were made by a canadian.

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                                  • stooovie@mas.toS stooovie@mas.to

                                    @hpod16 ...and then propose a new proprietary network "W"

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                                    #116

                                    @stooovie @hpod16 To be clear: "W Social" isn't by the European Commission or the EU as a whole but by a startup and media platform called "We Don't Have Time".

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                                    • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

                                      @hpod16 It means When I joined it said select a server. I picked one that said it was about Science, Books. etc. And it turned into just politics. If I want Politics I can go to X. I go to Insta for cats, and fun stuff, I keep hoping for more about EU on mastodon, but it is all Hate Trump, Hate America, Hate Jews. So I rarely come here. Anyway, will check in later I am a hopeful person. Peace! ☮️

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                                      #117

                                      @MissWarcraft @hpod16 the server you're on is currently the largest one on Mastodon, and thus probably the hardest one to moderate. When you have time, have a look at smaller servers - there are loads of them now - and pick one with a policy you like.

                                      But Mastodon isn't really about hanging on your own server only. Use hashtags to find those conversations and users you want to follow. I rarely if ever look at the posts on my own server now, let alone the global feed (or whatever it is called).

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                                      • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                                        @hpod16 @darkoneko

                                        In this case I'm not against this kind of answering only half the question tbh.

                                        My online world would be poorer without seeing people from all over the world. Including the cool kind of people from the US.

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                                        #118

                                        @project1enigma @hpod16 @darkoneko This! Besides: Somebody on the Fediverse can also make – in theory – an instance which only allows "certified citizens" (whatever that means).

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                                        • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

                                          @hpod16 It means When I joined it said select a server. I picked one that said it was about Science, Books. etc. And it turned into just politics. If I want Politics I can go to X. I go to Insta for cats, and fun stuff, I keep hoping for more about EU on mastodon, but it is all Hate Trump, Hate America, Hate Jews. So I rarely come here. Anyway, will check in later I am a hopeful person. Peace! ☮️

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                                          #119

                                          @MissWarcraft You aren't really locked into a server. (To be clear: Yes, you can't migrate your posts *right now* – it's being worked on – but you don't loose your network when switching servers as you can migrate you followers and followings.)

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