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So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age.

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  • valsombra@chaosfem.twV valsombra@chaosfem.tw

    @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu

    I think the main thing keeping people on platforms like Discord & Facebook are the group management features.

    Private Facebook groups offer the 'walled garden' vibe for special interests, while Discord makes it much easier to organize a community.

    There's a feature gap that I haven't seen any other products step in to fill (especially for non-technical users).

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    #46

    @valsombra @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu And discord managed to convince these communities to talk in a space that has near-zero searchability so there will be a lot of ressources that just get lost in the aether...

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    • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

      So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

      Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

      https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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      #47

      @JessTheUnstill Finish your sentences with a period to watch porn.

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      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

        So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

        Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

        https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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        #48

        @JessTheUnstill https://element.io/en/about might be the solution? Unless theres a catch I am not seeing that actually looks very approachble, usable and secure?

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        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

          So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

          Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

          https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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          #49
          @JessTheUnstill i wonder which would be more effective, typing in Proper Grammer With Periods. 🙂 or typing millennial spork >_< shit
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          • apophis@kill-corporations.enterprisesA apophis@kill-corporations.enterprises
            @JessTheUnstill i wonder which would be more effective, typing in Proper Grammer With Periods. 🙂 or typing millennial spork >_< shit
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            #50
            @JessTheUnstill "what's the percentage on ______" "ummmmmmm just two points under 69"
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            • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

              So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

              Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

              https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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              #51

              @JessTheUnstill

              I stopped using Discord a year or two ago not because of any specific issue,* but because too many apps and online communities are clamoring for my attention. Given this development, I will continue to avoid it.

              * Unlike the author of the quoted article, whose opening paragraph is giving serious "So tell us how you *really* feel" energy 😉 (ETA screenshot)

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              • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                #52

                @JessTheUnstill discord? No idea what it is.

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                • accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA accordingtowouter@mastodon.world

                  @JessTheUnstill discord? No idea what it is.

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                  #53

                  @AccordingtoWouter k

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                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                    @AccordingtoWouter k

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                    #54

                    @JessTheUnstill but I think if you need to prove your ID, it doesn’t exist that long anymore 😀

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                    • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

                      @erin Or just make a reference to leaving a message on an answering machine.

                      @JessTheUnstill

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                      #55

                      @faithisleaping @erin @JessTheUnstill Me: "Great video! I had to rewind-"
                      My Discord NSA agent: "He's clear, sir."

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                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                        So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                        Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                        https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                        #56

                        @JessTheUnstill Use Stoat.chat instead. formerly known as @revoltchat

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                        • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                          So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                          Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                          https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                          #57

                          @JessTheUnstill

                          i wonder if AI excepts this as ID to "infer my age" 🤭

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                          • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                            So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                            Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                            https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                            #58

                            @JessTheUnstill I write like I'm going to be graded. I should be okay.

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                            • ainar_von_fieln@mastodon.socialA ainar_von_fieln@mastodon.social

                              @JessTheUnstill Use Stoat.chat instead. formerly known as @revoltchat

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                              #59

                              @Ainar_von_Fieln @JessTheUnstill @revoltchat As far as I can tell it doesn't support video chat, so it doesn't meet my use case.

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                              • valsombra@chaosfem.twV valsombra@chaosfem.tw

                                @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu

                                I think the main thing keeping people on platforms like Discord & Facebook are the group management features.

                                Private Facebook groups offer the 'walled garden' vibe for special interests, while Discord makes it much easier to organize a community.

                                There's a feature gap that I haven't seen any other products step in to fill (especially for non-technical users).

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                                #60

                                @valsombra @JessTheUnstill @FknHannu This has been done before though. Reddit replacing digg. Facebook replacing myspace. It takes a lot of effort to move users, and in a few years the new thing is somehow worse than the previous thing. I'm never going to be excited about another "product" ever.

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                                • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                  So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                  Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                  https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                  #61

                                  @JessTheUnstill They've *been* running ML against everything to infer your age. I requested my data last year and it had my assumed age in it. Doesn't make it less creepy, just wanted to let y'all know discord has always been creepy.

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                                  • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                    So it's not just that Discord is requiring pictures or IDs to verify age. They're also going to be running AI against everything you do on there to "infer" your age... So make sure you "type old".

                                    Additionally, Discord will implement its age inference model, a new system that runs in the background to help determine whether an account belongs to an adult, without always requiring users to verify their age. Some users may be asked to use multiple methods if more information is needed to assign an age group.”

                                    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/discord-roll-out-global-age-verification-system-including-an-age-inference-model-that-runs-in-the-background

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                                    #62

                                    @JessTheUnstill What do we think about building a discord clone in Freenet

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                                    • the_moth@social.arctian.orgT the_moth@social.arctian.org

                                      @JessTheUnstill What do we think about building a discord clone in Freenet

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                                      #63

                                      there's not a lack of Discord alternatives. There's a lack of GOOD Discord alternatives.

                                      @the_moth

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                                      • jesstheunstill@infosec.exchangeJ jesstheunstill@infosec.exchange

                                        there's not a lack of Discord alternatives. There's a lack of GOOD Discord alternatives.

                                        @the_moth

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                                        #64

                                        @JessTheUnstill @the_moth

                                        I don't use Discord. What are the essential features that Discord does for you? (I know in general that it's doing text chat and audio and maybe video conf, and some other stuff? but specifically like how do you use it in ways that make it really killer for that purpose?)

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                                        • dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.orgD dlakelan@mastodon.sdf.org

                                          @JessTheUnstill @the_moth

                                          I don't use Discord. What are the essential features that Discord does for you? (I know in general that it's doing text chat and audio and maybe video conf, and some other stuff? but specifically like how do you use it in ways that make it really killer for that purpose?)

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                                          #65

                                          @dlakelan @the_moth

                                          Easy enough my non-technical friends are willing to switch to.

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