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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

    Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

    I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

    The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

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    #141

    @_elena flee that nazi bar is a better option.

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    • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

      @NatureMC @u_urban @_elena I suspect most of Mastodon would end up blocking the entire instance with ICE on it, but I can't say for sure. And I think that would be something the servers themselves would do, not individual accounts. Perhaps some would be afraid to go that far, but I think the majority would do it.

      You are right that the Fediverse is anything but perfect of course. There's only so much human moderators can do in particular. The chief difference is it's ours not some company's

      sb@metroholografix.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #142

      @nazokiyoubinbou @NatureMC @u_urban @_elena

      "... most of Mastodon would end up blocking the entire instance with ICE on it..."

      I knew I'd end up blocking .social eventually.

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      • sb@metroholografix.caS sb@metroholografix.ca

        @nazokiyoubinbou @NatureMC @u_urban @_elena

        "... most of Mastodon would end up blocking the entire instance with ICE on it..."

        I knew I'd end up blocking .social eventually.

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        #143

        @sb .. would block a lot of wonderful people, too. @nazokiyoubinbou @u_urban @_elena

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

          Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

          I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

          The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

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          #144

          @_elena

          I'm curious, why does it matter if blocking bluesky is public or not?

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

            Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

            I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

            The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

            chris@social.losno.coC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #145

            @_elena Bit too late for me, I'm already subscribed to the "all US official accounts" block list.

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            • fds@mastodon.socialF fds@mastodon.social

              @bastardsheep It’s always felt like a path to bullying people. Either by giving grief to people for who is in their block list or creating awfully named lists and putting people in it. In the past I’ve seen list names that feel like it’s named in such a way they hope the people in the list see it.

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              #146

              @fds public information on who people block feels like a way to build a Bullying As A Service (BaaS) solution.

              Bots that find people that block someone, and then direct minions to attack. This week, people who block a billionaire TERF, next week people that block the ICE account.

              With some OSINT thrown in, could maybe identify the people offline and target them there.

              wizards@bastardsheep@aus.social

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                @smattymatty indeed 🥲

                maximilianblum@linke.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #147

                @_elena @smattymatty hm, I think that's a vulnerable argument. If fedi would spread more, there would appear more instances that would not block ICE.

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                • maximilianblum@linke.socialM maximilianblum@linke.social

                  @_elena @smattymatty hm, I think that's a vulnerable argument. If fedi would spread more, there would appear more instances that would not block ICE.

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                  #148

                  @MaximilianBlum @_elena

                  Fedi has the tools to deal with this, BlueSky doesn't.

                  Toxic instances already exist, and I agree that if fedi grows, more toxic instances will exist - it will become more difficult to update blocklists and whatnot - but at least Fedi gives us the tools to deal with this.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                    Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                    I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                    The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                    maximilianblum@linke.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #149

                    @_elena ...and another recent reason: #cashtags on #bluesky https://www.heise.de/en/news/Not-the-community-s-wishes-Bluesky-brings-live-stream-display-and-Cashtags-11143599.html

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