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  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

    Age verification is spreading like cancer.

    First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺

    What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

    Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

    We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

    👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

    cejjacobs@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21

    @Tutanota the other day reporting on Roblox (game platform) some people were happy that the platform added age verification by scanning a photo. So voluntarily having children giving their pictures for facial recognition… (the kids were unimpressed. One 12 years old was identified as 16-17, another claimed to have shown a random photo of an adult)

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    • nocci@punk.cyber77.deN nocci@punk.cyber77.de

      @jathanasiou@mastodon.social
      I think we agree on the substance: digital surveillance infrastructure DOES enable authoritarianism, and we're seeing it happen with the UK law. Your concerns about control mechanisms have merit.

      Where I'd still push back: Niemöller's poem carries specific weight because it's about genocide. We can call out authoritarian patterns—ID checks, surveillance, censorship—without invoking the Holocaust. That reference should be reserved for contexts that actually approach that scale.

      Let's respectfully agree to disagree on the specific comparison. That said, your points about the UK and the potential for censorship via ID gates are valid and worrying. That is definitely a fight worth fighting—I just prefer different rhetoric to fight it.


      @Tutanota@mastodon.social

      jathanasiou@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      @nocci @Tutanota I hear you and yes I understand your stance very much.

      It is important in times like these to retain a sense of unity even if we have somewhat different ways to call out and deal with the dangerous, undemocratic powers we face.

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      • nocci@punk.cyber77.deN nocci@punk.cyber77.de

        @Tutanota@mastodon.social

        Folks... I don't know who was responsible for the Martin Niemöller allegory.

        That's really inappropriate.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came

        elexia@catcatnya.comE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #23

        @nocci @Tutanota yeah I agree. this is bad, but it's not the Holocaust.

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        • elexia@catcatnya.comE elexia@catcatnya.com

          @nocci @Tutanota yeah I agree. this is bad, but it's not the Holocaust.

          nocci@punk.cyber77.deN This user is from outside of this forum
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          #24

          @elexia@catcatnya.com
          exactly - thx for confirmation

          @Tutanota@mastodon.social

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          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

            Age verification is spreading like cancer.

            First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺

            What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

            Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

            We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

            👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

            gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #25

            @Tutanota I'm happy.. I'll start using simple phone or smartphone with minimum services or apps with custom rom.. ☺️😊Atleast it ll give me full time to hangout with my people locally.

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              Age verification is spreading like cancer.

              First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺

              What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

              Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

              We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

              👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

              tonanio@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #26

              @Tutanota The reality is that to fight disinformation, misingotmation and scams, only ID verification will work IF and it's a big if, cannot be controlled by governments and corporations, plus the "fake accounts" and bot farms are locked out of Internet, especially social media.
              And it ain't going to be good if governments take the lead on developing the solutions.

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              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                Age verification is spreading like cancer.

                First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺

                What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

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                #27

                no way the app i always see when i open f-droid is on wafrn(well, mastadon but i dont care. my point is i didnt expect to see it THERE yk)

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                • art_histories@mastodon.socialA art_histories@mastodon.social

                  @superboom12s @Tutanota Until Elon Musk with hishateful, lying, kiddy-porn-site isn't banned I will never believe that it is for "the protection of our children". Because protection of children means that social media would be regulated and providers would be held accountable for the damage they do by spreading lies, misinformation, and hate.

                  superboom12s@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #28

                  @art_histories @Tutanota

                  Well, can't deny that I absolutely hate social media like that, as they only do care for their gains and not for their users at all, look at Facebook (not only but as an example), who consciously advertises scams and misinformation...

                  However, I do think regulation is not a solution entirely, I believe that education is way more important, as too much regulation leads to less freedom and people not knowing to manage themselves when they get able to.

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Age verification is spreading like cancer.

                    First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺

                    What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                    Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                    We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                    👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

                    imgoneinpeace@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #29

                    @Tutanota I can't say what I think without being blocked. There is no freedom to speak unless you are a fascist.

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                    • nocci@punk.cyber77.deN nocci@punk.cyber77.de

                      @Tutanota@mastodon.social

                      Folks... I don't know who was responsible for the Martin Niemöller allegory.

                      That's really inappropriate.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came

                      tutanota@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #30

                      @nocci Thank you very much for your feedback and for sharing your stance on this. We agree that this poem could be misinterpreted in such a way, and that is definitely not something we intended. However, in the English-speaking world it is commonly used today to speak up against increasing surveillance tendencies, and that's what we are doing here. We are sorry if this did not come across clear enough and will review future posts more critically.

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        Age verification is spreading like cancer.

                        First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺

                        What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                        Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                        We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                        👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

                        denisalexclopo@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #31

                        @Tutanota nope. It's good that adult sites are locked behind age verification. The harder it is to access that rubbish, the better.
                        The issues are all the others, yes.

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          Age verification is spreading like cancer.

                          First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication 🇬🇧🇦🇺

                          What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.

                          Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.

                          We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!

                          👉 More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity

                          jdb_env@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #32

                          @Tutanota

                          Thank you for this post

                          @LDH_Fr
                          @LaQuadrature

                          Avez-vous entrepris des actions sur ce sujet ?

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