Age verification is spreading like cancer.
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@kgMadee2@mathstodon.xyz
I already made my stance clear:
@Tutanota@mastodon.social
RE: https://punk.cyber77.de/notes/ahklg4paq2f809e1 -
Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity@Tutanota the other day reporting on Roblox (game platform) some people were happy that the platform added age verification by scanning a photo. So voluntarily having children giving their pictures for facial recognition… (the kids were unimpressed. One 12 years old was identified as 16-17, another claimed to have shown a random photo of an adult)
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@jathanasiou@mastodon.social
I think we agree on the substance: digital surveillance infrastructure DOES enable authoritarianism, and we're seeing it happen with the UK law. Your concerns about control mechanisms have merit.
Where I'd still push back: Niemöller's poem carries specific weight because it's about genocide. We can call out authoritarian patterns—ID checks, surveillance, censorship—without invoking the Holocaust. That reference should be reserved for contexts that actually approach that scale.
Let's respectfully agree to disagree on the specific comparison. That said, your points about the UK and the potential for censorship via ID gates are valid and worrying. That is definitely a fight worth fighting—I just prefer different rhetoric to fight it.
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@Tutanota@mastodon.social
Folks... I don't know who was responsible for the Martin Niemöller allegory.
That's really inappropriate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came -
@elexia@catcatnya.com
exactly - thx for confirmation
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Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity@Tutanota I'm happy.. I'll start using simple phone or smartphone with minimum services or apps with custom rom..
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Atleast it ll give me full time to hangout with my people locally. -
Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity@Tutanota The reality is that to fight disinformation, misingotmation and scams, only ID verification will work IF and it's a big if, cannot be controlled by governments and corporations, plus the "fake accounts" and bot farms are locked out of Internet, especially social media.
And it ain't going to be good if governments take the lead on developing the solutions. -
Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymityno way the app i always see when i open f-droid is on wafrn(well, mastadon but i dont care. my point is i didnt expect to see it THERE yk)
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@superboom12s @Tutanota Until Elon Musk with hishateful, lying, kiddy-porn-site isn't banned I will never believe that it is for "the protection of our children". Because protection of children means that social media would be regulated and providers would be held accountable for the damage they do by spreading lies, misinformation, and hate.
Well, can't deny that I absolutely hate social media like that, as they only do care for their gains and not for their users at all, look at Facebook (not only but as an example), who consciously advertises scams and misinformation...
However, I do think regulation is not a solution entirely, I believe that education is way more important, as too much regulation leads to less freedom and people not knowing to manage themselves when they get able to.
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Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity@Tutanota I can't say what I think without being blocked. There is no freedom to speak unless you are a fascist.
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@Tutanota@mastodon.social
Folks... I don't know who was responsible for the Martin Niemöller allegory.
That's really inappropriate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came@nocci Thank you very much for your feedback and for sharing your stance on this. We agree that this poem could be misinterpreted in such a way, and that is definitely not something we intended. However, in the English-speaking world it is commonly used today to speak up against increasing surveillance tendencies, and that's what we are doing here. We are sorry if this did not come across clear enough and will review future posts more critically.
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Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymity@Tutanota nope. It's good that adult sites are locked behind age verification. The harder it is to access that rubbish, the better.
The issues are all the others, yes. -
Age verification is spreading like cancer.
First they came for adults site and social media; now they are already discussing about putting VPNs and app stores behind #AgeVerfication
What’s sold as “online safety” means #surveillance via IDs checks or face scans.
Privacy & anonymity protect journalists, whistleblowers & activists.
We must fight against age verification - or the free web dies!
More: https://tuta.com/blog/age-verification-kills-anonymityThank you for this post
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