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Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means.

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  • xela@troet.cafeX xela@troet.cafe

    @Tutanota how about "content moderation by humans"? Seems important to me when it comes to any platform/software, where harassment could happen.

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    chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de
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    #25

    @xela @Tutanota

    Yes that is very important but you have to get supported by Sorting and showing important content that has to be moderated. So you have to use as Mod some tools to sort that content and Moderate that content in a propper way. Floods of Content could be worse to handle if it is too much for one Person. So you have to get Tools to Rank the Worst Post to the Top and less worse to the bottom if you handle really lots of Content. That is possible to get and will help to Mod Content.

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    • dynom@toot.communityD dynom@toot.community

      @Tutanota short slogans are nice for marketing.

      The Internet is not safer for victims of harassment, when the attackers enjoy anonymity and no accountability because of it.

      Platforms can't abide by laws, if they can't figure out if their users are legally (of age) visiting.

      Brevity isn't winning any arguments.

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      chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de
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      #26

      @dynom @Tutanota

      this laws you are referencing are the problem of unsafe acting on that harassment and victims you are referencing to. This laws will get it worse on victims because of stigmata on that topic. You have to reform that law before you could get victims safer. You have to get safer NSFW stuff before you kick out the really bad stuff. To ban everything that does not suit you is double standard.

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      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

        🔗 Protecting your safety online starts here: https://tuta.com/blog/minimum-password-length

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        #27

        @Tutanota
        I’ve been using unique 20-char random passwords for at least five years. Occasionally, I’ve run into a site where the limit is lower, and then I’ve thought a bit about whether I really need an account at such a poorly coded site. Nope!

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        • C chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de

          @xela @Tutanota

          Yes that is very important but you have to get supported by Sorting and showing important content that has to be moderated. So you have to use as Mod some tools to sort that content and Moderate that content in a propper way. Floods of Content could be worse to handle if it is too much for one Person. So you have to get Tools to Rank the Worst Post to the Top and less worse to the bottom if you handle really lots of Content. That is possible to get and will help to Mod Content.

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          #28

          @Chris2000SP sure, totally agree, moderation needs tools. But humans must have "the last say".
          Anyway, why I mentioned moderation here was, because it's not mentioned at all in the info graphic for a safer web - and I think, it should be there. @Tutanota

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          • xela@troet.cafeX xela@troet.cafe

            @Chris2000SP sure, totally agree, moderation needs tools. But humans must have "the last say".
            Anyway, why I mentioned moderation here was, because it's not mentioned at all in the info graphic for a safer web - and I think, it should be there. @Tutanota

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            chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de
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            #29

            @xela @Tutanota
            of course humans must have the last say! I will not tolerate a Moderation that force overblocking.

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              🔗 Protecting your safety online starts here: https://tuta.com/blog/minimum-password-length

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              #30

              @Tutanota we will ditch smart phones and services. Time to use dump keypad phones just for calls and msgs.. Lest flick these stupid companies together..

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              • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                @Tutanota we will ditch smart phones and services. Time to use dump keypad phones just for calls and msgs.. Lest flick these stupid companies together..

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                chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de
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                #31

                @GOKUSHRM @Tutanota
                How about a real Linux Phone instead of using a phone that is from last millennium? True Linux Phones does not have that Problems i also perceive on "Normal Smartphones"

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                • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                  @Tutanota

                  You missed the most important one.

                  A safe internet require distributed and transparent ownership, not tight control by secretive for-profit companies.

                  Without that, none of the rest matters.

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                  #32

                  @TCatInReality
                  There is no ownership of internet. There is ownership on internet.
                  The left column is for safety on internet protecting against abuse by systems on internet under any ownership.
                  @Tutanota

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                  • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                    Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means. 🌐🌍

                    Share this & Spread the word!

                    #SaferInternetDay26 #SID

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                    #33

                    @Tutanota

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means. 🌐🌍

                      Share this & Spread the word!

                      #SaferInternetDay26 #SID

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                      #34

                      @Tutanota You keep using the word safer. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                        Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means. 🌐🌍

                        Share this & Spread the word!

                        #SaferInternetDay26 #SID

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                        #35

                        @Tutanota

                        #alttext

                        A safer internet IS MADE BY
                        Encryption
                        Privacy
                        Open source

                        A safer internet is NOT MADE BY
                        Age verification
                        Scanning communication
                        Tracking & data collection

                        #SAFERINTERNETDAY

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                        • drewtowler@mas.toD drewtowler@mas.to

                          @Tutanota You keep using the word safer. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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                          chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de
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                          #36

                          @drewtowler @Tutanota

                          Please get some more context if you want to discus that topic because such comments are not helping if your sentences are to vage.

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                          • gonun13@mastodon.socialG gonun13@mastodon.social

                            @Tutanota Just a note. Age verification is not mutually exclusive to everything that is on the safer column. If the real world has age requirements in some operations, it's acceptable that the digital world also has the same. Making the Internet lawless is what drives attacks on other liberties.

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                            soderling@dresden.network
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                            #37

                            @gonun13 @Tutanota Correct, it is only mutual exclusive to privacy.

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                            • S soderling@dresden.network

                              @gonun13 @Tutanota Correct, it is only mutual exclusive to privacy.

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                              #38

                              @soderling No, it is not. Any digital service could query a digital gov ID just for age verification (yes/no signed key) and nothing else is stored in either side. A government audit can run on all users just to make sure they have those signed keys WITHOUT knowing who they are.

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                              • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means. 🌐🌍

                                Share this & Spread the word!

                                #SaferInternetDay26 #SID

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                                #39

                                @Tutanota why age verification is not safe? Internet should be 35+ only. Because it destroys brain tissues with cat pictures.

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                                • rbuzz@mastodon.socialR rbuzz@mastodon.social

                                  @Tutanota why age verification is not safe? Internet should be 35+ only. Because it destroys brain tissues with cat pictures.

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                                  chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de
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                                  #40

                                  @rbuzz @Tutanota
                                  because it is not make it clear what behave is good or bad. It is really not a all making safer thing than you will think of. It would be force to get more victims because of tabu that topic that has to be discus. Tabu this topics what will be unsafe for minors will get more victims and yes i mean also NSFW Content because that Content will get to people no matter what you will do. The other way around you have to guard minors actively not inactively like that verify stuff.

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                                    #41

                                    @SuperDicq @Tutanota no. NOT free. Secure software is funded software that can afford to invest in a secure platform.

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                                    • C chris2000sp@social.anoxinon.de

                                      @rbuzz @Tutanota
                                      because it is not make it clear what behave is good or bad. It is really not a all making safer thing than you will think of. It would be force to get more victims because of tabu that topic that has to be discus. Tabu this topics what will be unsafe for minors will get more victims and yes i mean also NSFW Content because that Content will get to people no matter what you will do. The other way around you have to guard minors actively not inactively like that verify stuff.

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                                      #42

                                      @rbuzz @Tutanota

                                      That cat pics your mentioning is because you are referencing Plattforms with Algorithms suggestions and this is made to force your behave to stick to that platform as much time as possible. That is a Dark Pattern and has to be banned from all Plattforms no matter if it is for adults or not. That Algorithms are the worst no matter which Plattform your metioning that using that and no matter if it is SFW or NSFW.

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                                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                        Let's remind everyone what a safe internet actually means. 🌐🌍

                                        Share this & Spread the word!

                                        #SaferInternetDay26 #SID

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                                        #43

                                        @Tutanota the left column does not protect minors from AI Fake content, porn and violence. This is just the wrong sharepic for the conext

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                                          #44

                                          @aubrey @soderling They can save it, it's pointless, it's just a valid age verification token. The critical point is the authentication system that by law and governance, would be made in a way where you only authorise an age verification not sharing private data with the digital service OR logging on the government side what site you're trying to use. There are more technical steps available for privacy like key pairs, blockchain, owning your data I would prefer first but it is possible.

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