“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
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“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, _Dune_
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“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, _Dune_
@lproven "the storytellers get there first" - Peterson
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“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, _Dune_
@lproven It's often mentioned, yes. The goal of Butlerian Jihad was to avoid a power imbalance between the creators of thinking machines and everyone else. But it ultimately failed, as it resulted in power imbalance between feudal leaders and everyone else. Not to mention a caste of mentates
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@lproven It's often mentioned, yes. The goal of Butlerian Jihad was to avoid a power imbalance between the creators of thinking machines and everyone else. But it ultimately failed, as it resulted in power imbalance between feudal leaders and everyone else. Not to mention a caste of mentates
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“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, _Dune_
Oh well.. and then there was a machine storm and "Dune" describes a time of omnipotent nobles. So... they simply changed from being enslaved be machines owned by man to being enslaved by man with machines.
Sorry, Dune does not describe a future one wants to live in unless he's a male member of nobility. (Kinda like "before french revolution.")
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“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, _Dune_
@lproven A very apt quote. He certainly knew what he was talking about.
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@ThinkrDotExe @thisalex @lproven
I tend to think mostly about the first book: thank you for reminding me about thisHe was trying to avoid becoming a god and lost.
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@ThinkrDotExe @thisalex @lproven
I tend to think mostly about the first book: thank you for reminding me about thisHe was trying to avoid becoming a god and lost.
@wtrmt @ThinkrDotExe @thisalex @lproven Frank wrote the whole series to make the point to avoid hero/idol/state/power worship.
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Oh well.. and then there was a machine storm and "Dune" describes a time of omnipotent nobles. So... they simply changed from being enslaved be machines owned by man to being enslaved by man with machines.
Sorry, Dune does not describe a future one wants to live in unless he's a male member of nobility. (Kinda like "before french revolution.")
@SofaFernsehFan @lproven that’s the point
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@wtrmt @ThinkrDotExe @thisalex @lproven Frank wrote the whole series to make the point to avoid hero/idol/state/power worship.
@jasper89 @ThinkrDotExe @thisalex @lproven yes: he gets there. I was writing about the first book, which I have read a number of times.
Warlords or messiahs both systems of government are brutal in their own way.
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“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, _Dune_
@lproven A better quote is the final speech from Chaplin's "The Great Dictator!
https://www.charliechaplin.com/en/articles/29-the-final-speech-from-the-great-dictator- -
@lproven A very apt quote. He certainly knew what he was talking about.
@JustinMac84 @lproven maybe a visionary, or maybe just common sense after what happened to the world at the time.
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“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, _Dune_
This!
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@toriver @thisalex @lproven the Fremen are co-opted by the missionaria protectiva, then, they’re given a new purpose by Kynes into a terraforming effort, to be converted later by the “caudillo” into religious zealots.
There’s a story arc for both Paul and the Fremen. I liked the way that the conflict within the different Fremen factions played out in the recent movies.
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I simply don't like the universe Dune presents. A universe with the choice between being ruled by either a brutal autocrat, a benevolent autocrat or a jihadist sect following some "messiah" is not really a universe I like to be read quotes from.
If you need a sci-fi-quote from me its the end of "Roadside Picnic": "HAPPINESS, FREE, FOR EVERYONE, AND LET NO ONE BE FORGOTTEN!"
Else I'd go for the end of "Shockwave Rider" too.
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@AlexanderVI @lproven of course. Never said it was. It is a study, though not scientific
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