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  • wendinoakland@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
    #146

    @NickGates Vallejo is pretty much North Bay. It's across the Napa River from Mare Island, and south of Sonoma & Napa. Actually, Vallej the same latitude as Point Reyes Seashore, just inland a bit. @glasspusher @amiserabilist

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    • gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.placeG gkrnours@mastodon.gamedev.place

      @Natasha_Jay if we used date format like jan/19/2026 it wouldn't be an issue 🙂

      clew@ecoevo.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
      #147

      So many new delicious issues though!

      I propose we rename the months so that they sort alphabetically in calendar order.

      In all languages. @gkrnours @Natasha_Jay

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      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

        100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.

        thanius@mastodon.chuggybumba.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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        thanius@mastodon.chuggybumba.com
        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
        #148

        @Natasha_Jay I would wage an actual war on the MM/DD/YY format, but it would be confused about when the war even began.

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        • amiserabilist@beige.partyA amiserabilist@beige.party

          @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux

          NASA lost the Mars Climate Orbiter in 1999 due to a fatal mix-up between English (feet, pounds) and metric (meters, Newtons) units, where contractor software used English measurements for thruster force while NASA expected metric, causing the orbiter to enter Mars' atmosphere too low and burn up, a classic example of unit conversion error.

          https://science.nasa.gov/mission/mars-climate-orbiter/

          $327.6 million 🚽

          u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ingU This user is from outside of this forum
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          u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ing
          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
          #149

          @amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.

          Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that.

          renwillis@mstdn.socialR amiserabilist@beige.partyA wendinoakland@beige.partyW 4 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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          • wendinoakland@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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            wendinoakland@beige.party
            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
            #150

            @NickGates @glasspusher @amiserabilist Was mine semi-reasonable?

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            • amiserabilist@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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              amiserabilist@beige.party
              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
              #151

              @NickGates

              sometimes you don't find out if Vallejo is East Bay, North Bay, or not Bay at all, you just move on.

              @wendinoakland @glasspusher

              is Vallejo East Bay, North Bay, or not Bay at all?

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              • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

                @NickGates @glasspusher @amiserabilist Was mine semi-reasonable?

                amiserabilist@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                amiserabilist@beige.party
                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                #152

                @wendinoakland @NickGates @glasspusher

                is it in no mans land?

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                • wendinoakland@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wendinoakland@beige.party
                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                  #153

                  @NickGates @glasspusher @amiserabilist Ok, I asked husband and he said No, Vallejo *isn’t* North Bay, despite being north of the SFBay. It’s also east, which might be dominant. Fck if I know?

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                  • amiserabilist@beige.partyA amiserabilist@beige.party

                    @wendinoakland @NickGates @glasspusher

                    is it in no mans land?

                    wendinoakland@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wendinoakland@beige.party
                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                    #154

                    @amiserabilist @NickGates @glasspusher It’s SOMEPLACE.

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                    • u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ingU u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ing

                      @amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.

                      Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that.

                      renwillis@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      renwillis@mstdn.social
                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                      #155

                      @u0421793 @Natasha_Jay @stux @amiserabilist @wendinoakland can’t tell if your joking. Last time we toured Scotland “miles” were everywhere.

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                      • u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ingU u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ing

                        @amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.

                        Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that.

                        amiserabilist@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        amiserabilist@beige.party
                        schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                        #156

                        @u0421793

                        fair enough:

                        The primary cause of this discrepancy was that one piece of ground software supplied by Lockheed Martin produced results in a United States customary unit, contrary to its Software Interface Specification (SIS), while a second system, supplied by NASA, expected those results to be in SI units, in accordance with the SIS. Specifically, software that calculated the total impulse produced by thruster firings produced results in pound-force seconds. The trajectory calculation software then used these results – expected to be in newton-seconds (incorrect by a factor of 4.45)[2] – to update the predicted position of the spacecraft.[2]

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter#Cause_of_failure

                        @Natasha_Jay @stux @renwillis @wendinoakland

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                        • amiserabilist@beige.partyA amiserabilist@beige.party

                          @u0421793

                          fair enough:

                          The primary cause of this discrepancy was that one piece of ground software supplied by Lockheed Martin produced results in a United States customary unit, contrary to its Software Interface Specification (SIS), while a second system, supplied by NASA, expected those results to be in SI units, in accordance with the SIS. Specifically, software that calculated the total impulse produced by thruster firings produced results in pound-force seconds. The trajectory calculation software then used these results – expected to be in newton-seconds (incorrect by a factor of 4.45)[2] – to update the predicted position of the spacecraft.[2]

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter#Cause_of_failure

                          @Natasha_Jay @stux @renwillis @wendinoakland

                          renwillis@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          renwillis@mstdn.social
                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                          #157

                          @amiserabilist @u0421793 @Natasha_Jay @stux @wendinoakland I don’t know what’s happening anymore and I want off the ride now.

                          Kiss in metric, fuck in imperial, and let the rest fall where they may on the short blip of time we have on this planet.

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                          • renwillis@mstdn.socialR renwillis@mstdn.social

                            @amiserabilist @u0421793 @Natasha_Jay @stux @wendinoakland I don’t know what’s happening anymore and I want off the ride now.

                            Kiss in metric, fuck in imperial, and let the rest fall where they may on the short blip of time we have on this planet.

                            amiserabilist@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                            #158

                            @renwillis

                            “The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them."

                            @u0421793 @Natasha_Jay @stux @wendinoakland

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                            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                              100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.

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                              grishka@friends.grishka.me
                              schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                              #159

                              Oh and AM/PM time. In some things that are unusably poorly translated to Russian, I have to set my language to en_GB just to get 24-hour time format.

                              The fun part is that Americans even use 24-hour time but only in the military apparently.

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                              • u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ingU u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ing

                                @amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.

                                Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that.

                                amiserabilist@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                amiserabilist@beige.party
                                schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                #160

                                @u0421793 @renwillis

                                sorry it took me this long to notice the sarcasm.

                                i have been on here all day avoiding being a responsible adult.

                                @Natasha_Jay @stux @renwillis @wendinoakland

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                                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                  100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.

                                  anguadelphine@mk.absturztau.beA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  anguadelphine@mk.absturztau.be
                                  schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                  #161

                                  @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt

                                  Quite right
                                  YYYY MM DD Month Day 23:59 format like sensible filenames.
                                  Easy Peasy to find and divide into yearly folders, subbed into monthly if there are too many.

                                  Plus tariff the crap out of the
                                  US Imperial system.
                                  Sell in metric or not at all. I have handy dandy conversion apps and a dual read tape measure.
                                  They HAD to be difficult, not just simplifying the English language into gibberish, but changing the units too.
                                  Frankly the UK had to go metric just to piss the Yanks off; not that we have completely of course.

                                  Note to other replies: the UK has been a hybrid for around 60 years.
                                  The paper size system changed in 1959, A4 replaced foolscap, we didn't use Letter which the Yanks do.

                                  Roads are in miles, beer in pints, shorts in gills and a lot of people think F in hot weather C in cold weather, inches - feet - yards are still commonplace.
                                  A UK Gallon is 8 pints, made up of 20 fluid ounces / 1750ml.

                                  mm I can just about deal with, yes I am old and find fractions easier than decimals.

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                                  • u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ingU u0421793@toot.pikopublish.ing

                                    @amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.

                                    Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that.

                                    wendinoakland@beige.partyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                    #162

                                    @u0421793 @amiserabilist @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux And yet the prevalence of “stones” continues

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                                    • wendinoakland@beige.partyW wendinoakland@beige.party

                                      @u0421793 @amiserabilist @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux And yet the prevalence of “stones” continues

                                      amiserabilist@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      amiserabilist@beige.party
                                      schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                      #163

                                      @wendinoakland

                                      i missed the sarcasm too at first:

                                      "Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that."

                                      https://beige.party/@amiserabilist/115923813216434301

                                      @u0421793 @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux

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                                      • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                        100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.

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                                        #164

                                        @Natasha_Jay 💯 Totally agree. In fact, I've been saying that since 10/30/98

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                                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                          100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.

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                                          schrieb am zuletzt editiert von
                                          #165

                                          @Natasha_Jay Also applies to ‘momentarily’ meaning ‘in a short while’ as opposed to ‘for an instant’.

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