100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
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@Natasha_Jay and then we will be able to celebrate Pi Day on 31 April
@ArchaeoIain @Natasha_Jay 22/7 is the one true date surely
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yet:
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@amiserabilist @wendinoakland man, I was in montclair. a lot of the streets weren't flat
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@vonxylofon but when I wear a watch (which is every day), and my train leaves at 18h, I don’t want to have to do math while looking at my watch to see if I’m going to be on time or not.
@zed I can assure you we all learnt to do that like muscle memory by the time we turned nine.
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@ArchaeoIain @Natasha_Jay 22/7 is the one true date surely
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@NickGates Vallejo is pretty much North Bay. It's across the Napa River from Mare Island, and south of Sonoma & Napa. Actually, Vallej the same latitude as Point Reyes Seashore, just inland a bit. @glasspusher @amiserabilist
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@Natasha_Jay if we used date format like jan/19/2026 it wouldn't be an issue

So many new delicious issues though!
I propose we rename the months so that they sort alphabetically in calendar order.
In all languages. @gkrnours @Natasha_Jay
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay I would wage an actual war on the MM/DD/YY format, but it would be confused about when the war even began.
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@wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux
NASA lost the Mars Climate Orbiter in 1999 due to a fatal mix-up between English (feet, pounds) and metric (meters, Newtons) units, where contractor software used English measurements for thruster force while NASA expected metric, causing the orbiter to enter Mars' atmosphere too low and burn up, a classic example of unit conversion error.
https://science.nasa.gov/mission/mars-climate-orbiter/
$327.6 million

@amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.
Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that. -
@NickGates @glasspusher @amiserabilist Was mine semi-reasonable?
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sometimes you don't find out if Vallejo is East Bay, North Bay, or not Bay at all, you just move on.
is Vallejo East Bay, North Bay, or not Bay at all?
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@NickGates @glasspusher @amiserabilist Was mine semi-reasonable?
@wendinoakland @NickGates @glasspusher
is it in no mans land?
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@NickGates @glasspusher @amiserabilist Ok, I asked husband and he said No, Vallejo *isn’t* North Bay, despite being north of the SFBay. It’s also east, which might be dominant. Fck if I know?
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@wendinoakland @NickGates @glasspusher
is it in no mans land?
@amiserabilist @NickGates @glasspusher It’s SOMEPLACE.
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@amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.
Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that.@u0421793 @Natasha_Jay @stux @amiserabilist @wendinoakland can’t tell if your joking. Last time we toured Scotland “miles” were everywhere.
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@amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.
Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that.fair enough:
The primary cause of this discrepancy was that one piece of ground software supplied by Lockheed Martin produced results in a United States customary unit, contrary to its Software Interface Specification (SIS), while a second system, supplied by NASA, expected those results to be in SI units, in accordance with the SIS. Specifically, software that calculated the total impulse produced by thruster firings produced results in pound-force seconds. The trajectory calculation software then used these results – expected to be in newton-seconds (incorrect by a factor of 4.45)[2] – to update the predicted position of the spacecraft.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter#Cause_of_failure
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fair enough:
The primary cause of this discrepancy was that one piece of ground software supplied by Lockheed Martin produced results in a United States customary unit, contrary to its Software Interface Specification (SIS), while a second system, supplied by NASA, expected those results to be in SI units, in accordance with the SIS. Specifically, software that calculated the total impulse produced by thruster firings produced results in pound-force seconds. The trajectory calculation software then used these results – expected to be in newton-seconds (incorrect by a factor of 4.45)[2] – to update the predicted position of the spacecraft.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter#Cause_of_failure
@amiserabilist @u0421793 @Natasha_Jay @stux @wendinoakland I don’t know what’s happening anymore and I want off the ride now.
Kiss in metric, fuck in imperial, and let the rest fall where they may on the short blip of time we have on this planet.
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@amiserabilist @u0421793 @Natasha_Jay @stux @wendinoakland I don’t know what’s happening anymore and I want off the ride now.
Kiss in metric, fuck in imperial, and let the rest fall where they may on the short blip of time we have on this planet.
“The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them."
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
Oh and AM/PM time. In some things that are unusably poorly translated to Russian, I have to set my language to en_GB just to get 24-hour time format.
The fun part is that Americans even use 24-hour time but only in the military apparently.
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@amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.
Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that.sorry it took me this long to notice the sarcasm.
i have been on here all day avoiding being a responsible adult.
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
Quite right
YYYY MM DD Month Day 23:59 format like sensible filenames.
Easy Peasy to find and divide into yearly folders, subbed into monthly if there are too many.
Plus tariff the crap out of the US Imperial system.
Sell in metric or not at all. I have handy dandy conversion apps and a dual read tape measure.
They HAD to be difficult, not just simplifying the English language into gibberish, but changing the units too.
Frankly the UK had to go metric just to piss the Yanks off; not that we have completely of course.
Note to other replies: the UK has been a hybrid for around 60 years.
The paper size system changed in 1959, A4 replaced foolscap, we didn't use Letter which the Yanks do.
Roads are in miles, beer in pints, shorts in gills and a lot of people think F in hot weather C in cold weather, inches - feet - yards are still commonplace.
A UK Gallon is 8 pints, made up of 20 fluid ounces / 1750ml.
mm I can just about deal with, yes I am old and find fractions easier than decimals.