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  • aerion@nerdculture.deA aerion@nerdculture.de

    @dansup
    > * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

    How about pointing to https://quicksy.im/ rather than Signal? And @snikket_im for those who prefer #selfhosting ?

    #Quicksy is by far the easiest way to get into #XMPP, and it behaves like WhatsApp (and Signal) users expect, with automatic contact discovery.

    We need truly open instant messaging, not more walled gardens. However much good Signal has done for privacy in IM, it is *not* the golden answer to WhatsApp, Telegram, and all the other monolithic platforms.

    @daniel
    @matrix @xmpp

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    #33

    @dansup

    @matrix @xmpp

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    • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

      The Great Migration 🚀

      X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
      IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
      FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
      TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
      YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
      WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

      Ethical. Federated*. Open.

      Spread the word ✨

      * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

      aerion@nerdculture.deA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #34

      @dansup
      > * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

      How about pointing to https://quicksy.im/ rather than Signal? And @snikket_im for those who prefer #selfhosting ?

      #Quicksy is by far the easiest way to get into #XMPP, and it behaves like WhatsApp (and Signal) users expect, with automatic contact discovery.

      We need truly open instant messaging, not more walled gardens. However much good Signal has done for privacy in IM, it is *not* the golden answer to WhatsApp, Telegram, and all the other monolithic platforms.

      @daniel
      @matrix @xmpp

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      • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

        The Great Migration 🚀

        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

        Ethical. Federated*. Open.

        Spread the word ✨

        * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

        ctietze@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #35

        @dansup I forgot about Friendica when researching FB alternatives for community org! Thank you!

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        • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

          The Great Migration 🚀

          X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
          IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
          FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
          TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
          YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
          WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

          Ethical. Federated*. Open.

          Spread the word ✨

          * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

          labus@expressional.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #36

          @dansup @matrix @xmpp What about Olvid instead of Signal? Any experience? (We are testing it at home these days.)

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          • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

            The Great Migration 🚀

            X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
            IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
            FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
            TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
            YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
            WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

            Ethical. Federated*. Open.

            Spread the word ✨

            * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

            darwinlovesbitcoin@theforkiverse.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #37

            @dansup But what if “we” don’t want the people left on X? 😉

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            • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

              The Great Migration 🚀

              X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
              IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
              FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
              TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
              YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
              WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

              Ethical. Federated*. Open.

              Spread the word ✨

              * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

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              mhtt@mastodon.social
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              #38

              @dansup @matrix @xmpp

              digg ---> reddit

              whops wrong decade!

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              • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

                The Great Migration 🚀

                X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                Ethical. Federated*. Open.

                Spread the word ✨

                * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

                lecalligraphe@piaille.frL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #39

                @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                I recently heard about the holochain (currently at the end of development) that will start to make possible to build your own local SELF-hosted, decentralized and encrypted chat room (also cloud...)

                everything (redundancy mngt, encryption, storage split between servers, storage itself...) will be made by terminal of members of the chat room and no other server will be involved... (Thus it will request storage allocation from each member)

                not only the data are decentralized, but then also the infrastructure with the control of it

                That could be the next security & privacy revolution...

                Exemple :
                https://volla.online/en/volla-cloud/

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                • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

                  The Great Migration 🚀

                  X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                  IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                  FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                  TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                  YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                  WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                  Ethical. Federated*. Open.

                  Spread the word ✨

                  * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

                  angelo_arch@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #40

                  @dansup @matrix @xmpp

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                  • lightningtoaster@masto.nuL lightningtoaster@masto.nu

                    @techindepth27 @hyc It's dependent on the source of the app I think. When you get the self-updating APK from their website or from #fdroid through adding the @guardianproject repo it should be resolved.

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                    #41

                    @LightningToaster @techindepth27 @guardianproject Thanks I'll check where I installed it from and try fdroid.

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                    • hyc@mastodon.socialH hyc@mastodon.social

                      @LightningToaster @techindepth27 @guardianproject Thanks I'll check where I installed it from and try fdroid.

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                      #42

                      @hyc Just a heads up, apparently the official F-droid app has some security issues and isn't recommended. I've used Neo-Store and @droidify Also as @LightningToaster mentioned, you'll need to add the @guardianproject repo in the settings to get Signal to show up

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                      • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

                        The Great Migration 🚀

                        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                        Ethical. Federated*. Open.

                        Spread the word ✨

                        * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

                        qgustavor@urusai.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #43

                        @dansup Matrix crypto is bad. There are so many people recommending Signal alternatives with BAD cryptography just because it's not federated (some are even Signal forks with removed security features! ) that makes me urge two things:

                        One: pressure Signal into becoming federated.

                        Two: make people aware that there are plans to add E2EE to Mastodon and, IMHO, it will be better than Signal in some parts (e.g. on Signal you have to check safety numbers to see if no one is tampering with your connection, on Mastodon it will be automatic, like WhatsApp, but open-source, unlike WhatsApp).

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                        • ben@social.ben.ieB ben@social.ben.ie

                          @dansup signal isnt open source or federated, is it?

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                          #44

                          @ben @dansup It's open source

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                          • T techindepth27@mastodon.social

                            @hyc Just a heads up, apparently the official F-droid app has some security issues and isn't recommended. I've used Neo-Store and @droidify Also as @LightningToaster mentioned, you'll need to add the @guardianproject repo in the settings to get Signal to show up

                            hyc@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #45

                            @techindepth27 @droidify @LightningToaster @guardianproject signal website only sends me to google play. My fdroid app must've been out of date because even enabling the guardian repo, still didn't show signal app. Droidify worked, and the new apk is running now, thanks.

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                            • zetabeta@mastodon.socialZ zetabeta@mastodon.social

                              @hyc @dansup @matrix @xmpp
                              huawei uses harmonyos, which may not be compatible with android.
                              older phones used android.

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                              #46

                              @zetabeta this is a P60 Pro on de-googled Android.

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                              • hyc@mastodon.socialH hyc@mastodon.social

                                @techindepth27 @droidify @LightningToaster @guardianproject signal website only sends me to google play. My fdroid app must've been out of date because even enabling the guardian repo, still didn't show signal app. Droidify worked, and the new apk is running now, thanks.

                                lightningtoaster@masto.nuL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #47

                                @hyc Oh yeah, weird, I notice that too now. It seems they have removed the .apk download option from the site.

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                                • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

                                  The Great Migration 🚀

                                  X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                  IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                  FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                  TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                  YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                  WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                  Ethical. Federated*. Open.

                                  Spread the word ✨

                                  * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

                                  rejzor@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #48

                                  @dansup @matrix @xmpp Reddit -> Lemmy

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                                  • dansup@mastodon.socialD dansup@mastodon.social

                                    The Great Migration 🚀

                                    X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                    IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                    FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                    TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                    YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                    WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                    Ethical. Federated*. Open.

                                    Spread the word ✨

                                    * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

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                                    #49

                                    @dansup I'm not convinced that an ethical version of #TikTok is possible - the entire premise is loss of time and cognitive function to a series of utterly inane rubbish.

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