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@cmconseils 1789 France didn’t end that well.
Then again, 1945 Germany is also not a very pleasant prospect.
"1789 France didn’t end that well"
That depends on your POV. If you didn't like the streets having dead people lying around (from starvation) then it was probably ok.
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"1789 France didn’t end that well"
That depends on your POV. If you didn't like the streets having dead people lying around (from starvation) then it was probably ok.
@gsymon @cmconseils now there’s a rabbithole…
The Terror wasn’t that far down the road (lined with–), nor was the counterrevolution, the Napoleon power grab (lined with–), the postnapoleonic restoration (lined with–), the ensuing French-Prussian wars, Great War, WW2 (all lined with–).
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@cmconseils Now we're talking.
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@cmconseils Trump's second MAGA administration was partisan coup of the US.
I expect this will end the way Vichy France ended. The big names, if they flee or hide well, will get trials. The others, not so much.
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@goedelchen @cmconseils Dead nazis are… still nazis to me.
@js @goedelchen @cmconseils but they are the best kind IMHO.
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@js @goedelchen @cmconseils but they are the best kind IMHO.
@teedubyeah FACTS!!!!
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@cmconseils 1917 russia is an option too.
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@cmconseils That's evocative, but not going to happen, I feel.
I was thinking about it right a few weeks ago. A similar repression, in an european country like France, would have raised total civil war. Not ordered disagreement, really war.
I suspect that the american response, of the average citizen, is something like "oh, let's see, I have my job, I earn money, I'm middle class, all this stuff doesn't affect me. It will be gone in a few months, I keep on living quietly..." -
@cmconseils you don't know how French Revolution ended, don't you?
@Gehennam @cmconseils They took the choice for 2265 UFP off the table. The rest is revenge. With a slight hope to turn things in a slightly different direction after the guillotines.
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@gsymon @cmconseils now there’s a rabbithole…
The Terror wasn’t that far down the road (lined with–), nor was the counterrevolution, the Napoleon power grab (lined with–), the postnapoleonic restoration (lined with–), the ensuing French-Prussian wars, Great War, WW2 (all lined with–).
It's hard to evaluate the final consequences of anything that happens in history, because history doesn't end, it just keeps going.
However, France is considerably better placed, in terms of political sentiment, to fight tyranny now than a lot of countries who never cut off their own king's head.
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@cmconseils That's evocative, but not going to happen, I feel.
I was thinking about it right a few weeks ago. A similar repression, in an european country like France, would have raised total civil war. Not ordered disagreement, really war.
I suspect that the american response, of the average citizen, is something like "oh, let's see, I have my job, I earn money, I'm middle class, all this stuff doesn't affect me. It will be gone in a few months, I keep on living quietly..."@luc0x61 @cmconseils I think yours is an accurate assessment, from what I see here in America today.
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@cmconseils Innocent people will die, either way.
@woo @cmconseils If that’s the case, then let’s pick the way that leads to more of the guilty dying.
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@ohayoitsmiku@mastodon.social @woo @cmconseils And it’s not like they gave us a choice of revolution or utopia, or even revolution or status quo. The revolution was imposed. The choice now is whether we accept the boot on our head or fight. Choose your poison…
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@woo @cmconseils If that’s the case, then let’s pick the way that leads to more of the guilty dying.
@su_liam @cmconseils That sounds like a Trump plan: stop Iranians hating Americans by killing them.
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@ohayoitsmiku@mastodon.social @woo @cmconseils And it’s not like they gave us a choice of revolution or utopia, or even revolution or status quo. The revolution was imposed. The choice now is whether we accept the boot on our head or fight. Choose your poison…
@su_liam @cmconseils When I'm only offered 2 choices I've learned to refuse both.
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@luc0x61 @cmconseils I think yours is an accurate assessment, from what I see here in America today.
@Doppelganger75 Trust me, I'm very sorry to not be totally wrong.
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@cmconseils That's exactly what they'll get. Soon.
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It's hard to evaluate the final consequences of anything that happens in history, because history doesn't end, it just keeps going.
However, France is considerably better placed, in terms of political sentiment, to fight tyranny now than a lot of countries who never cut off their own king's head.
@petealexharris @gsymon @cmconseils Lopping off dear leader’s heads is not a one time fix. It requires long-time commitment.
