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  • gehennam@mastodon.socialG gehennam@mastodon.social

    @cmconseils you don't know how French Revolution ended, don't you?

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    #22

    @Gehennam @cmconseils They took the choice for 2265 UFP off the table. The rest is revenge. With a slight hope to turn things in a slightly different direction after the guillotines.

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    • js@mastodon.nlJ js@mastodon.nl

      @gsymon @cmconseils now there’s a rabbithole…

      The Terror wasn’t that far down the road (lined with–), nor was the counterrevolution, the Napoleon power grab (lined with–), the postnapoleonic restoration (lined with–), the ensuing French-Prussian wars, Great War, WW2 (all lined with–).

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      @js @gsymon @cmconseils

      It's hard to evaluate the final consequences of anything that happens in history, because history doesn't end, it just keeps going.

      However, France is considerably better placed, in terms of political sentiment, to fight tyranny now than a lot of countries who never cut off their own king's head.

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      • L luc0x61@mastodon.gamedev.place

        @cmconseils That's evocative, but not going to happen, I feel.
        I was thinking about it right a few weeks ago. A similar repression, in an european country like France, would have raised total civil war. Not ordered disagreement, really war.
        I suspect that the american response, of the average citizen, is something like "oh, let's see, I have my job, I earn money, I'm middle class, all this stuff doesn't affect me. It will be gone in a few months, I keep on living quietly..."

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        @luc0x61 @cmconseils I think yours is an accurate assessment, from what I see here in America today.

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        • W woo@fosstodon.org

          @cmconseils Innocent people will die, either way.

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          #25

          @woo @cmconseils If that’s the case, then let’s pick the way that leads to more of the guilty dying.

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            #26

            @ohayoitsmiku@mastodon.social @woo @cmconseils And it’s not like they gave us a choice of revolution or utopia, or even revolution or status quo. The revolution was imposed. The choice now is whether we accept the boot on our head or fight. Choose your poison…

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            • su_liam@mas.toS su_liam@mas.to

              @woo @cmconseils If that’s the case, then let’s pick the way that leads to more of the guilty dying.

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              #27

              @su_liam @cmconseils That sounds like a Trump plan: stop Iranians hating Americans by killing them.

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              • su_liam@mas.toS su_liam@mas.to

                @ohayoitsmiku@mastodon.social @woo @cmconseils And it’s not like they gave us a choice of revolution or utopia, or even revolution or status quo. The revolution was imposed. The choice now is whether we accept the boot on our head or fight. Choose your poison…

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                #28

                @su_liam @cmconseils When I'm only offered 2 choices I've learned to refuse both.

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                • cmconseils@mastodon.socialC cmconseils@mastodon.social
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                  #29

                  @cmconseils
                  Straight up

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                  • doppelganger75@mastodon.worldD doppelganger75@mastodon.world

                    @luc0x61 @cmconseils I think yours is an accurate assessment, from what I see here in America today.

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                    #30

                    @Doppelganger75 Trust me, I'm very sorry to not be totally wrong.

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                      #31

                      @cmconseils That's exactly what they'll get. Soon.

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                      • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                        @js @gsymon @cmconseils

                        It's hard to evaluate the final consequences of anything that happens in history, because history doesn't end, it just keeps going.

                        However, France is considerably better placed, in terms of political sentiment, to fight tyranny now than a lot of countries who never cut off their own king's head.

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                        #32

                        @petealexharris @gsymon @cmconseils Lopping off dear leader’s heads is not a one time fix. It requires long-time commitment.

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                          #33

                          @cmconseils after 1789 is pretty accurate to Trump administration.

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