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The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

    This should not happen.
    You should be angry about this.
    You should refuse to be controlled.
    You should resist.

    gruby@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @Em0nM4stodon Debloat Windows, install Linux, choose alternatives.
    Do whatever you can so that you reclaim the control over your machine.

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    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

      The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

      This should not happen.
      You should be angry about this.
      You should refuse to be controlled.
      You should resist.

      sempf@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      @Em0nM4stodon I'm working on it, Em. I'm working on it.

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      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

        The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

        This should not happen.
        You should be angry about this.
        You should refuse to be controlled.
        You should resist.

        admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #4

        @Em0nM4stodon They've been working on that since ~1976 when they realized how much money could be made through that control...and yes we should all be pissed.

        em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE swordgeek@mstdn.caS 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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        • sempf@infosec.exchangeS sempf@infosec.exchange

          @Em0nM4stodon I'm working on it, Em. I'm working on it.

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          #5

          @Sempf 💪✨

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          • admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com

            @Em0nM4stodon They've been working on that since ~1976 when they realized how much money could be made through that control...and yes we should all be pissed.

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            #6

            @admin

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            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

              The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

              This should not happen.
              You should be angry about this.
              You should refuse to be controlled.
              You should resist.

              huntingdon@mstdn.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @Em0nM4stodon

              Not just control of the computer you bought, control of the printer, the phone, the car, the appliances, ad nauseum, is shifting to their vendors.

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              • gruby@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #8

                @chrispblair but in return they're given all the possibilities to customize and enhance their computers

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                • gruby@mas.toG gruby@mas.to

                  @chrispblair but in return they're given all the possibilities to customize and enhance their computers

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                  #9

                  @gruby I think most people would be surprised at how much better Linux runs. Aside from a few fixable driver issues, Linux is a smoother workstation. I tried Windows again for five minutes, and I was annoyed within thirty seconds.

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                    This should not happen.
                    You should be angry about this.
                    You should refuse to be controlled.
                    You should resist.

                    apples_and_pears@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    @Em0nM4stodon Or - if the computer is yours to do with as you see fit - dump the operating system that works against you and install one you control. May I suggest Linux?

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                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                      The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                      This should not happen.
                      You should be angry about this.
                      You should refuse to be controlled.
                      You should resist.

                      mikal@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #11

                      @Em0nM4stodon

                      For many years now, Apple products have been the "devil I know" and I could kind of hold my nose and accept the compromises (and prices). But, damn, the compromises are piling up faster every month! I've accepted that I'm going to have to learn Linux at some point, but it's not just Linux, it's photo and video editing software, and every other app I use that I will have to relearn.

                      Or, maybe, I will ditch every digital everything from my life and become a hermit hanging out on the porch in the desert with my lizard and bird friends. That is sounding better all the time.

                      In the meantime, yeah, seize the means of computation as Cory Doctorow says. With torches, pitchforks and guillotines if necessary.

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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                        This should not happen.
                        You should be angry about this.
                        You should refuse to be controlled.
                        You should resist.

                        lamb@libretooth.grL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #12

                        @Em0nM4stodon I like my computer stupid, so it leaves the smarts to me, I hate "talking" to my computer, I don't talk to my tools, I need my computer to just compute, I like my fuck ups be my fault, not whatever background cloud service is running that time, I like to decide WHEN my computer becomes obsolete, I don't want my computer to pretend it knows things or it can do things I don't even need it to do, I don't need it to pretend to be my assistant, friend, etc., it's a tool that I own

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                        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                          The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                          This should not happen.
                          You should be angry about this.
                          You should refuse to be controlled.
                          You should resist.

                          swordgeek@mstdn.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #13

                          @Em0nM4stodon I just bought a new computer.

                          I chose the components, just like I did in 1991.
                          I installed the OS, just like I did in 1991.
                          I dealt with the glitches, the app problems, the 'issues' mostly like I did in 1991.
                          My computer is tellinh the vendor *almost* nothing, kind of like it did in 1991.

                          But I'm a seasoned geek, and it's taken me three days to get a *mostly* functional system working *mostly* the way I want without selling my favourite underwear colour to someone.

                          In a just universe, the default would be "here's your tool, it works for you" without this much bullshit.

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                          • huntingdon@mstdn.socialH huntingdon@mstdn.social

                            @Em0nM4stodon

                            Not just control of the computer you bought, control of the printer, the phone, the car, the appliances, ad nauseum, is shifting to their vendors.

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                            #14

                            @huntingdon @Em0nM4stodon The god damn alarm clocks.

                            I better not need a new one of those soon.

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                            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                              The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                              This should not happen.
                              You should be angry about this.
                              You should refuse to be controlled.
                              You should resist.

                              ahasty@techhub.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #15

                              @Em0nM4stodon

                              Em...you are confused.. you don't get to participate in the system you are the system. And joy you feel is manufactured and monetized. And work you do, the profit stolen. You want creative freedom..well the EULA says you don't own that. Your purchases are for sale..you don't own the meta data. They get to track your movements and even what you look at..that to can be sold...the profit to the company that owns the software.

                              And all we need to change this is a few dozen people who believe that our right to exist is as 'not for profit' and to make it illegal to harvest and monetize the populace. A few dozen people to take down the companies build on the millions.

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                              • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

                                @huntingdon @Em0nM4stodon The god damn alarm clocks.

                                I better not need a new one of those soon.

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                                #16

                                @Epic_Null @huntingdon @Em0nM4stodon Alarm clock enshittification sounds hilarious. 😆 😢

                                Your alarm clock is a whole year old, we will play adverts at you every morning unless you buy a new one or pay for an advert free subscription...

                                Has anyone done this yet? 😀 I would have said most people use their phone but lately there has been a trend for light-triggered or sleep-sensitive for a while so it wouldn't surprise me...

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                                • matthewtoadagain@climatejustice.socialM matthewtoadagain@climatejustice.social

                                  @Epic_Null @huntingdon @Em0nM4stodon Alarm clock enshittification sounds hilarious. 😆 😢

                                  Your alarm clock is a whole year old, we will play adverts at you every morning unless you buy a new one or pay for an advert free subscription...

                                  Has anyone done this yet? 😀 I would have said most people use their phone but lately there has been a trend for light-triggered or sleep-sensitive for a while so it wouldn't surprise me...

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                                  #17

                                  @MatthewToadAgain @Epic_Null @huntingdon 🫣

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                                  • lamb@libretooth.grL lamb@libretooth.gr

                                    @Em0nM4stodon I like my computer stupid, so it leaves the smarts to me, I hate "talking" to my computer, I don't talk to my tools, I need my computer to just compute, I like my fuck ups be my fault, not whatever background cloud service is running that time, I like to decide WHEN my computer becomes obsolete, I don't want my computer to pretend it knows things or it can do things I don't even need it to do, I don't need it to pretend to be my assistant, friend, etc., it's a tool that I own

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                                    #18

                                    @Lamb
                                    Refurbished laptop running Linux and FOSS is the answer. Ditch Apple, Microsoft and Google altogether
                                    Lenovo and Dell come shipped with Linux distros these days.

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                                    • mikal@sfba.socialM mikal@sfba.social

                                      @Em0nM4stodon

                                      For many years now, Apple products have been the "devil I know" and I could kind of hold my nose and accept the compromises (and prices). But, damn, the compromises are piling up faster every month! I've accepted that I'm going to have to learn Linux at some point, but it's not just Linux, it's photo and video editing software, and every other app I use that I will have to relearn.

                                      Or, maybe, I will ditch every digital everything from my life and become a hermit hanging out on the porch in the desert with my lizard and bird friends. That is sounding better all the time.

                                      In the meantime, yeah, seize the means of computation as Cory Doctorow says. With torches, pitchforks and guillotines if necessary.

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                                      #19

                                      @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Apple is overwhelmingly the one that did this to the tech industry. If the iPhone had never existed we would still have:

                                      Replaceable batteries
                                      Headphone jacks
                                      Ability to install software from anywhere
                                      Unified messaging
                                      No app stores

                                      The rest of the industry only went that route because Apple got away with it.

                                      I got a Black Friday laptop and went fully to Linux.

                                      Now what do I do when my car breaks? I went car shopping in 2025 and aborted because of hostile antifeatures.

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                                      • M mike805@noc.social

                                        @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Apple is overwhelmingly the one that did this to the tech industry. If the iPhone had never existed we would still have:

                                        Replaceable batteries
                                        Headphone jacks
                                        Ability to install software from anywhere
                                        Unified messaging
                                        No app stores

                                        The rest of the industry only went that route because Apple got away with it.

                                        I got a Black Friday laptop and went fully to Linux.

                                        Now what do I do when my car breaks? I went car shopping in 2025 and aborted because of hostile antifeatures.

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                                        #20

                                        @mike805

                                        I'm going to find a good mechanic because the antifeatures are too much for me.
                                        @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon

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                                        • vervain@sunny.gardenV vervain@sunny.garden

                                          @mike805

                                          I'm going to find a good mechanic because the antifeatures are too much for me.
                                          @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon

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                                          #21

                                          @vervain @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Likewise. I liked the Honda Accord feature wise, but it has a cellular modem you cannot turn off.

                                          I asked dealers, independent shops, search engines, and AI if there is a hack or workaround. So far nothing.

                                          If my car got wrecked tomorrow, I might get a 10th generation (2022) because some of the lower tier ones do not have a built in modem. I would just not install any apps and hang a Garmin for navigation.

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