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The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

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  • sempf@infosec.exchangeS sempf@infosec.exchange

    @Em0nM4stodon I'm working on it, Em. I'm working on it.

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    #5

    @Sempf 💪✨

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    • admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com

      @Em0nM4stodon They've been working on that since ~1976 when they realized how much money could be made through that control...and yes we should all be pissed.

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      #6

      @admin

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      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

        The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

        This should not happen.
        You should be angry about this.
        You should refuse to be controlled.
        You should resist.

        huntingdon@mstdn.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #7

        @Em0nM4stodon

        Not just control of the computer you bought, control of the printer, the phone, the car, the appliances, ad nauseum, is shifting to their vendors.

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        • gruby@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #8

          @chrispblair but in return they're given all the possibilities to customize and enhance their computers

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          • gruby@mas.toG gruby@mas.to

            @chrispblair but in return they're given all the possibilities to customize and enhance their computers

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            #9

            @gruby I think most people would be surprised at how much better Linux runs. Aside from a few fixable driver issues, Linux is a smoother workstation. I tried Windows again for five minutes, and I was annoyed within thirty seconds.

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            • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

              The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

              This should not happen.
              You should be angry about this.
              You should refuse to be controlled.
              You should resist.

              apples_and_pears@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @Em0nM4stodon Or - if the computer is yours to do with as you see fit - dump the operating system that works against you and install one you control. May I suggest Linux?

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                This should not happen.
                You should be angry about this.
                You should refuse to be controlled.
                You should resist.

                mikal@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #11

                @Em0nM4stodon

                For many years now, Apple products have been the "devil I know" and I could kind of hold my nose and accept the compromises (and prices). But, damn, the compromises are piling up faster every month! I've accepted that I'm going to have to learn Linux at some point, but it's not just Linux, it's photo and video editing software, and every other app I use that I will have to relearn.

                Or, maybe, I will ditch every digital everything from my life and become a hermit hanging out on the porch in the desert with my lizard and bird friends. That is sounding better all the time.

                In the meantime, yeah, seize the means of computation as Cory Doctorow says. With torches, pitchforks and guillotines if necessary.

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                • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                  The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                  This should not happen.
                  You should be angry about this.
                  You should refuse to be controlled.
                  You should resist.

                  lamb@libretooth.grL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #12

                  @Em0nM4stodon I like my computer stupid, so it leaves the smarts to me, I hate "talking" to my computer, I don't talk to my tools, I need my computer to just compute, I like my fuck ups be my fault, not whatever background cloud service is running that time, I like to decide WHEN my computer becomes obsolete, I don't want my computer to pretend it knows things or it can do things I don't even need it to do, I don't need it to pretend to be my assistant, friend, etc., it's a tool that I own

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                    This should not happen.
                    You should be angry about this.
                    You should refuse to be controlled.
                    You should resist.

                    swordgeek@mstdn.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #13

                    @Em0nM4stodon I just bought a new computer.

                    I chose the components, just like I did in 1991.
                    I installed the OS, just like I did in 1991.
                    I dealt with the glitches, the app problems, the 'issues' mostly like I did in 1991.
                    My computer is tellinh the vendor *almost* nothing, kind of like it did in 1991.

                    But I'm a seasoned geek, and it's taken me three days to get a *mostly* functional system working *mostly* the way I want without selling my favourite underwear colour to someone.

                    In a just universe, the default would be "here's your tool, it works for you" without this much bullshit.

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                    • huntingdon@mstdn.socialH huntingdon@mstdn.social

                      @Em0nM4stodon

                      Not just control of the computer you bought, control of the printer, the phone, the car, the appliances, ad nauseum, is shifting to their vendors.

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                      #14

                      @huntingdon @Em0nM4stodon The god damn alarm clocks.

                      I better not need a new one of those soon.

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                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                        The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                        This should not happen.
                        You should be angry about this.
                        You should refuse to be controlled.
                        You should resist.

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                        #15

                        @Em0nM4stodon

                        Em...you are confused.. you don't get to participate in the system you are the system. And joy you feel is manufactured and monetized. And work you do, the profit stolen. You want creative freedom..well the EULA says you don't own that. Your purchases are for sale..you don't own the meta data. They get to track your movements and even what you look at..that to can be sold...the profit to the company that owns the software.

                        And all we need to change this is a few dozen people who believe that our right to exist is as 'not for profit' and to make it illegal to harvest and monetize the populace. A few dozen people to take down the companies build on the millions.

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                        • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

                          @huntingdon @Em0nM4stodon The god damn alarm clocks.

                          I better not need a new one of those soon.

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                          #16

                          @Epic_Null @huntingdon @Em0nM4stodon Alarm clock enshittification sounds hilarious. 😆 😢

                          Your alarm clock is a whole year old, we will play adverts at you every morning unless you buy a new one or pay for an advert free subscription...

                          Has anyone done this yet? 😀 I would have said most people use their phone but lately there has been a trend for light-triggered or sleep-sensitive for a while so it wouldn't surprise me...

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                          • matthewtoadagain@climatejustice.socialM matthewtoadagain@climatejustice.social

                            @Epic_Null @huntingdon @Em0nM4stodon Alarm clock enshittification sounds hilarious. 😆 😢

                            Your alarm clock is a whole year old, we will play adverts at you every morning unless you buy a new one or pay for an advert free subscription...

                            Has anyone done this yet? 😀 I would have said most people use their phone but lately there has been a trend for light-triggered or sleep-sensitive for a while so it wouldn't surprise me...

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                            #17

                            @MatthewToadAgain @Epic_Null @huntingdon 🫣

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                            • lamb@libretooth.grL lamb@libretooth.gr

                              @Em0nM4stodon I like my computer stupid, so it leaves the smarts to me, I hate "talking" to my computer, I don't talk to my tools, I need my computer to just compute, I like my fuck ups be my fault, not whatever background cloud service is running that time, I like to decide WHEN my computer becomes obsolete, I don't want my computer to pretend it knows things or it can do things I don't even need it to do, I don't need it to pretend to be my assistant, friend, etc., it's a tool that I own

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                              #18

                              @Lamb
                              Refurbished laptop running Linux and FOSS is the answer. Ditch Apple, Microsoft and Google altogether
                              Lenovo and Dell come shipped with Linux distros these days.

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                              • mikal@sfba.socialM mikal@sfba.social

                                @Em0nM4stodon

                                For many years now, Apple products have been the "devil I know" and I could kind of hold my nose and accept the compromises (and prices). But, damn, the compromises are piling up faster every month! I've accepted that I'm going to have to learn Linux at some point, but it's not just Linux, it's photo and video editing software, and every other app I use that I will have to relearn.

                                Or, maybe, I will ditch every digital everything from my life and become a hermit hanging out on the porch in the desert with my lizard and bird friends. That is sounding better all the time.

                                In the meantime, yeah, seize the means of computation as Cory Doctorow says. With torches, pitchforks and guillotines if necessary.

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                                @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Apple is overwhelmingly the one that did this to the tech industry. If the iPhone had never existed we would still have:

                                Replaceable batteries
                                Headphone jacks
                                Ability to install software from anywhere
                                Unified messaging
                                No app stores

                                The rest of the industry only went that route because Apple got away with it.

                                I got a Black Friday laptop and went fully to Linux.

                                Now what do I do when my car breaks? I went car shopping in 2025 and aborted because of hostile antifeatures.

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                                • M mike805@noc.social

                                  @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Apple is overwhelmingly the one that did this to the tech industry. If the iPhone had never existed we would still have:

                                  Replaceable batteries
                                  Headphone jacks
                                  Ability to install software from anywhere
                                  Unified messaging
                                  No app stores

                                  The rest of the industry only went that route because Apple got away with it.

                                  I got a Black Friday laptop and went fully to Linux.

                                  Now what do I do when my car breaks? I went car shopping in 2025 and aborted because of hostile antifeatures.

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                                  @mike805

                                  I'm going to find a good mechanic because the antifeatures are too much for me.
                                  @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon

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                                  • vervain@sunny.gardenV vervain@sunny.garden

                                    @mike805

                                    I'm going to find a good mechanic because the antifeatures are too much for me.
                                    @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon

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                                    @vervain @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Likewise. I liked the Honda Accord feature wise, but it has a cellular modem you cannot turn off.

                                    I asked dealers, independent shops, search engines, and AI if there is a hack or workaround. So far nothing.

                                    If my car got wrecked tomorrow, I might get a 10th generation (2022) because some of the lower tier ones do not have a built in modem. I would just not install any apps and hang a Garmin for navigation.

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                                    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                      The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                                      This should not happen.
                                      You should be angry about this.
                                      You should refuse to be controlled.
                                      You should resist.

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                                      @Em0nM4stodon

                                      I have no dog in the race, so to speak. As I have not used a proprietary OS in decades. I feel for those that thought I was naive for preferring the 'nix environment.

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                                      • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                                        The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                                        This should not happen.
                                        You should be angry about this.
                                        You should refuse to be controlled.
                                        You should resist.

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                                        #23

                                        @Em0nM4stodon

                                        Feels like a good time to link to the Permacomputing site:

                                        https://permacomputing.net/

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                                        • M mike805@noc.social

                                          @vervain @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Likewise. I liked the Honda Accord feature wise, but it has a cellular modem you cannot turn off.

                                          I asked dealers, independent shops, search engines, and AI if there is a hack or workaround. So far nothing.

                                          If my car got wrecked tomorrow, I might get a 10th generation (2022) because some of the lower tier ones do not have a built in modem. I would just not install any apps and hang a Garmin for navigation.

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                                          #24

                                          @mike805 @vervain @Em0nM4stodon

                                          This is something that truly amazes me. Why isn't car hacking a thing? I mean FFS, if corn farmers can share cracked codes for John Deere tractors that allow them to work on them and program them themselves, you'd think all the privacy oriented tech nerds would have figured out how to crack car codes so that we could turn off all the surveillance or tweak the settings to our liking.

                                          Till that happens, I'm sticking with my 2012 non-telematics truck.

                                          I spent this morning replacing some of my house's original cracked and corroded cast-iron drain pipe with modern, standard ABS. This is a very useful skill when you need it! But I would readily swap it out for the "car hacker nerd" skill module if I could.

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