How to block Bluesky from Mastodon:

@alexchapman@tweesecake.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services they agree with nazis

@alexchapman@tweesecake.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services nazis are nazis, promoting nazis means you're one.

@patricus @FediTips No, they agree with some idiots who wanna run the US into the shitter. The protocol itself isn't run by nazis, its just that Bluesky, the specific instance, bsky.social, is letting a bunch of idiots like ICE run their shit on there. People can block those specific people, but blocking an entire service that federates Atproto with the Fediverse is a bad idea, because there are good people on Atproto and you're basically saying fuck you to them because they use a different protocol.

@patricus @FediTips You don't even know the meaning of the word nazi, so go and research it before throwing that word around.

@alexchapman@tweesecake.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services yeah and most of the protocol users are on the nazi instance, so it's easier to ban brid.gy than try to find a way to ban nazis.

@patricus @FediTips But they probably don't understand the whole situation, so you're basically telling the innocent to go fuck themselves for not understanding the whole situation. And the people who are promoting these controversial people are not Nazis, Nazis are the people who were part of the Nazi party during the war back when Adolf Hitler was in power in Germany. That's what Nazis are, so you're throwing the word Nazi around without fully understanding it.

@alexchapman@tweesecake.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services for me nazis and ICE is like nazis so

@patricus @FediTips But its not, ICE and Nazis are two completely different things. Yeah ICE has done fucked up things, but comparing them to the Nazi party is just wrong.

@alexchapman@tweesecake.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services they're the same. they're nazis with a different name.

@patricus @FediTips That's not true. And just because the people who run Bluesky decided to make a dumb move, that doesn't mean that innocent people should get fucked over like that.

@alexchapman@tweesecake.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services innocent people would move over to fediverse.

@patricus @FediTips Not necessarily, as not everyone over there will know what the fediverse is, and if they've built up a following or have a nich on there they aren't gonna wanna move just because some idiots are making stupid moves.

@alexchapman@tweesecake.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services and I am not unblocking brid.gy I don't want nazis here.

@patricus @FediTips Not everyone, like I said, is a Nazi that uses brid.gy.

@alexchapman@tweesecake.social @FediTips@social.growyourown.services not everyone but I don't want a risk.

@patricus @FediTips A better thing would be just to block specific users, like ice@bsky.brid.gy and so on.

@patricus @FediTips Its not a risk, as, well, my last reply gives you a better solution.

@patricus @alexchapman @FediTips It's a very narrow type of thinking. And also it actually has dictatorship smell to it: "that platform is bad, move here! Now!!" — different people can have different reasons to be here or there, starting from comfortable apps and close friends on a platform and ending with simple habit. My first and foremost reason to stop using Twitter was that third-party apps stopped working, that's it. And I still miss many people from there. If musk is a dickhead, it doesn't mean millions and millions of other people using the platform are.

@menelion @patricus @FediTips Exactly, like this whole sentiment from a lot of the big names in the Fediverse saying oh these people who are the CEO of this platform or this protocol promoted this person or that, its just ridiculous at this point, saying that just because certain people are doing stupid stuff we should abandon the platforms and/or protocols is only making the situation worse, we should be about people, not platforms and protocols, this needs to stop or the fediverse will continue to look like a bunch of randos who try to push specific ideologies on to its users. This is one of the reasons why the fediverse hasn't been taken seriously in the mainstream.

@alexchapman Exactly. I like the openness of the Fediverse, its huge possibilities, decentralization and so forth, but it seems to become more and more a place exclusively for leftists, anarchists, anti-capitalists, exclusive-open-sourcists and other -ists with whom I absolutely don't share my political views. And if you don't agree, you are basically a fascist/nazi/something other random insult word pronounced just to offend, without really knowing dictionary definition, all the connotations and historical presumptions of the word in question. For example, you use windows and don't want to go Linux? You're anti-European fascist, no matter what (you have no right to like Windows, you have no right to be blind and need accessibility Linux doesn't provide and will never provide in foreseeable future — rights are only for the left wing). You don't want that 100% of restaurants in your country were halal because you like your traditional pork meal with a glass of wine — shut up you islamophobic racist, you don't embrace diversity. You don't yell "free palestine" because you don't support hamas and don't want Israel to be abolished and ruined by terrorists — help, a nazi is here, ban him! And so on and so forth and so fifth.