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  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

    Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full? Are you seeing stuff you don't want to, and missing stuff you do want to see? Is your timeline overwhelmed by someone who shares too many posts?

    These and lots more timeline problems are solved in the "How to customise your Mastodon timeline" guide:

    ➡️ https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

    #FediTips #Mastodon

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    #47

    @FediTips your work is very much appreciated. Sorry you are being harassed. I frankly think that Mastodon is potentially one of the key means to avoid social media armageddon.

    Avoiding Algorithmic Addiction is the key to regaining sanity…

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    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

      p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

      Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

      If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

      jude_theone479001@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #48

      @FediTips You do fabulous work. I salute you!

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      • blamedutchie@expressional.socialB blamedutchie@expressional.social

        @FediTips @gotofritz

        I agree with Fritz... You are not even willing to consider you could do better.

        So be it. I have better things to do than trying to convince someone he is writing like an AI.

        Cheers.

        adrianriskin@kolektiva.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #49

        @BlameDutchie @FediTips @gotofritz

        Oh ffs, even the OED recognizes fedi's use of the word "algorithm". Bad enough to criticize someone's word choices when you obviously know what they mean, but to do it when they're actually using the word in a widely recognized sense is just 🤡

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        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

          p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

          Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

          If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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          #50

          @FediTips

          When I say #NoAlgorithmsNoMasters, I share your definition of algorithm and I appreciate your work.

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          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

            p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

            Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

            If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

            fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #51

            @FediTips You do great work, don't worry about the queefs.

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            • owlor@meow.socialO owlor@meow.social

              @FediTips Accusing someone of causing harm for using the non-technical definition of algorithm is kind of darkly funny in a way.

              Like it's clear that they understand that words can have expanded and non-literal definitions, but seemingly only for words they want to use to make a fiddly argument about terminology sounds more dire.

              Tbh, between the word "algorithm" and the word "harm", it is probably more important to insist on an accurate definition of the word "harm".

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              #52

              @Owlor @FediTips they strike me probably as the type of wordbro that will go standing on the hill about a meaning of a slur word before it became a slur and get pissy at folks said slur targets asking for them not to use said slur word because think of the poor dictionary definition.. despite um hold up they're clearly erasing the part of the definition that says how it's used as a slur. It's just a word in that case, but then get so pissed off at when a word is used in a way they don't like lol

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              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                #53

                @FediTips Ugh, sorry you’re dealing with that. If I could give one gift to the FOSS & Fediverse world it would be “better communication and social skills”. Seems to be a consistent weak point 😁

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                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                  p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                  Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                  If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                  tynstar@nerdculture.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #54

                  @FediTips
                  As others already said: keep up the great work! Ignore the nitpickers and haters.

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                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                    p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                    Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                    If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                    stonebear2@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #55

                    @FediTips Hell to the yes.

                    There are three criteria to making any kind of a public statement apocryphally credited to Socrates, but no less relevant for not having actually said by the man himself:

                    1. Is it true? Did you check it? are your sources reliable, hopefully more than one?

                    2. Is it useful? In this case, does it correct an error of fact? or is it simply denigrating the messenger? Which leads directly to

                    3. Is it kind? Even if it's about bad men, does what you're saying help good people? Or does it make them reconsider their oft-thankless efforts ot make the world better? Does it bring hope, or bitterness?

                    I invite you to consider these things for yourselves. You don't _have to_, at all... but people with way more reach than me will see what you do, and we will remember.

                    Credit to Tim Griffin of GriffinEd (WINOMastodon... yet?) for reminding me of that...

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                    • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                      @jannem @arthfach

                      It is by the dictionary definition, it isn't by common usage. What the dictionary says on technical matters often diverges from common usage.

                      Maybe the clearest example is "computer": Most people use that word to mean a laptop or desktop PC/Mac and not a smartphone. But going by the dictionary definition of "computer", the smartphone ought to be called a computer too.

                      I'm trying to use common usage as I'm mainly aiming my guides at new and non-technical people.

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                      #56

                      @FediTips @jannem @Arthfach Yeah... I think anyone who takes communication seriously, as you do, has to understand that in some cases it makes sense to be pedantic about what words mean, and in other cases it makes sense to sacrifice precision for ease of understanding. What you're doing is definitely in the latter category.

                      A fair number of people (some of whom really should know better IMO) don't seem to have ever considered that distinction.

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                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                        p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                        Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                        If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                        accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #57

                        @FediTips
                        Thank you for teaching us something about algorithms and pedants today!

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                        • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                          p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                          Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                          If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                          donhawkins@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #58

                          @FediTips
                          Sounds like they need to rolltheirown

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                          • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                            p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                            Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                            If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                            #59

                            @FediTips Well, "There is no algorithm on Mastodon" *is* wrong.

                            To a techie an "algorithm" is "a procedure which terminates".

                            In this case we're presumably talking about the algorithm which decides which posts a user sees. Which *does* exist, because the user sees post! - and is described in various places (starting with "you see posts from people you follow" and getting more complicated than that).

                            feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF moira@mastodon.murkworks.netM 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                            • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                              p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                              Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                              If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                              #60

                              @FediTips You're doing a great job, thanks for all the help you do for us!

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                              • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                                #61

                                @FediTips
                                💕

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                                • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                  Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full? Are you seeing stuff you don't want to, and missing stuff you do want to see? Is your timeline overwhelmed by someone who shares too many posts?

                                  These and lots more timeline problems are solved in the "How to customise your Mastodon timeline" guide:

                                  ➡️ https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

                                  #FediTips #Mastodon

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                                  #62

                                  @FediTips you are an important part of the fediverse! You are dare I say core to its success. Much appreciation for all you do

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                                  • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                    p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                    Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                    If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                                    #63

                                    @FediTips
                                    WTF?
                                    Block 'em.

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                                    • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                      @FediTips Well, "There is no algorithm on Mastodon" *is* wrong.

                                      To a techie an "algorithm" is "a procedure which terminates".

                                      In this case we're presumably talking about the algorithm which decides which posts a user sees. Which *does* exist, because the user sees post! - and is described in various places (starting with "you see posts from people you follow" and getting more complicated than that).

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                                      #64

                                      @TimWardCam

                                      This is a fair point and you're not technically wrong.

                                      I've tried to cover this in the guide itself, tl:dr the dictionary definitions of technical things are often veered away from by real world use. If they are different, I err on the side of real world common use as the site is aimed at non-technical people.

                                      Another example I give in the guide is "computer", it technically includes smartphones but that's not what most people mean if they say "computer".

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                                      • feditips@social.growyourown.servicesF feditips@social.growyourown.services

                                        @TimWardCam

                                        This is a fair point and you're not technically wrong.

                                        I've tried to cover this in the guide itself, tl:dr the dictionary definitions of technical things are often veered away from by real world use. If they are different, I err on the side of real world common use as the site is aimed at non-technical people.

                                        Another example I give in the guide is "computer", it technically includes smartphones but that's not what most people mean if they say "computer".

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                                        #65

                                        @FediTips Ah yes, the "I've got half a dozen computers in my wallet [chip and pin cards]" answer.

                                        Personally if the context is unclear I say "phone" or "laptop" or "real computer".

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                                        • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                          @FediTips Ah yes, the "I've got half a dozen computers in my wallet [chip and pin cards]" answer.

                                          Personally if the context is unclear I say "phone" or "laptop" or "real computer".

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                                          #66

                                          @FediTips Trouble then is that "tablets" obviously count as "phones" - they're not real computers, are they?? - but some of them are Wifi-only and thus can't make phone calls ...

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