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God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

    h2onolan@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #91

    @alice whenever the kids complain how awful the internet is off our home network i give a silent prayer of thanks to the pfsense fairy

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    • daman_ab@mastodon.onlineD daman_ab@mastodon.online

      @rainynight65 @alice I do the same thing with pi-hole and ad-blockers. I use freetube to play youtube videos on my desktop. Unfortunately, it doesn't exist on apple tv or ios. If you have a mac you could use screen sharing to display your computer screen on the apple tv. Then you can play youtube videos on a big screen without ads.

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      #92

      @daman_ab @alice

      Screensharing is not really an option for my daughter to use. I also tried Yattee but it is outdated and suffers from serious usability issues. I've just set up iSponsorBlockTV, that seems to work quite well in at least auto-muting and auto-skipping YT ads.

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

        tekhedd@byteheaven.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #93

        @alice funny you should ask! Highly detailed info on exactly how ordinary people browse the internet is available in summary, statistical, and individual profiles per-supposedly -anonymized user. For a surprisingly small fee. 🫣

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        • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

          @Landsil @alice @DavidNielsen bet the cat is fuming he doesn't get to play with that yarn ball 😆

          Seriously tho spinning pet hair is cool af

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          #94

          @renardboy @Landsil @alice perhaps I should take up that hobby, I have a #GoldenRetriever, she sheds like crazy, I could make so many sweaters.

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

            toekneegee@universeodon.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #95

            @alice
            The last time my wife handed me her phone to look at something in her web browser I asked if she needed anything in the open tabs. There were so many that Chrome no longer listed the number. I then had to disable notifications from who knows how many websites. It's probably time for me to do that again for her.

            She's resistant to any kind of change, so changing browsers or adding a VPN is out of the question for her.

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

              stomata@procial.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #96

              @alice@lgbtqia.space I once asked few random people. Their answer was Like "got used to them" 💀

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              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

                studiop@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #97

                @alice seriously, every time I have to look at a website on someone else's computer I am in shock

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

                  me@social.jlamothe.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #98
                  @alice Very, very slowly.
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                  • 503bartley@pdx.social5 503bartley@pdx.social

                    @alice Not without Waterfox and these extensions
                    AdBlocker for YouTube
                    Privacy Badger
                    Facebook Container
                    Facebook Direct Links
                    Hide Google AI Overviews
                    Qwant^h^h^h^h^h Startpage Search Engine (Europe based)
                    Tracking and Ad Removal on Facebook

                    Alternative providers https://goeuropean.org & https://docs.proton.me/doc?mode=open-url&token=NR710FE3MW#FgIAeN9UoR91

                    lemonlolita@calckey.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #99

                    @503bartley@pdx.social @alice@lgbtqia.space
                    I love Waterfox, but I don't use facecrook so the negates the need for most of those extensions. I also love Want and Ecosia.
                    🩷

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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                      #100

                      @alice They buy faster computers every year because magically theirs got so much slower.

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                      • lemonlolita@calckey.worldL lemonlolita@calckey.world

                        @503bartley@pdx.social @alice@lgbtqia.space
                        I love Waterfox, but I don't use facecrook so the negates the need for most of those extensions. I also love Want and Ecosia.
                        🩷

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                        #101

                        @lemonlolita

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          @DavidNielsen someone asked "how do you even keep track of all your followers?" and I said I make tiny hair dolls for each one, so I can tell whenever one is out of place.

                          Then I spent over an hour searching for the perfect photo of a small, real human (or cat) hair effigy.

                          I was disappointed that I couldn't find just the right image, so I started searching for felting instructions so I could make my own.

                          Like a perfectly normal person.

                          I'm now the proud owner of this.

                          Like a perfectly normal person.

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                          #102

                          @alice How did you get a sample of hair for each of us, I wonder?
                          @DavidNielsen

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                            #103

                            @alice
                            Of course, the obvious, expected, normal procedure for this situation.
                            @DavidNielsen

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                            • cthululemon@social.cthululemon.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #104

                              @alice @aly @calvin

                              I haven’t heard of GoodSense; where do you download it?

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                              • 503bartley@pdx.social5 503bartley@pdx.social

                                @alice Not without Waterfox and these extensions
                                AdBlocker for YouTube
                                Privacy Badger
                                Facebook Container
                                Facebook Direct Links
                                Hide Google AI Overviews
                                Qwant^h^h^h^h^h Startpage Search Engine (Europe based)
                                Tracking and Ad Removal on Facebook

                                Alternative providers https://goeuropean.org & https://docs.proton.me/doc?mode=open-url&token=NR710FE3MW#FgIAeN9UoR91

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                                #105

                                @503bartley @alice Isn't Qwant a scam anymore ? It has been for a very long time.
                                As Neocities websites have been unreferenced by Bing lately, are they still available on Qwant ?

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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                                  #106

                                  @alice I so wish firefox on iOS would finally add addon support. The only reason I still use Safari.

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                                    #107

                                    @alice @eldersea flipper zero

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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                                      #108

                                      @alice

                                      Wiith lots and lots of content blocking in place ...

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                                      • dusk@todon.euD dusk@todon.eu

                                        @Sagaliciouzzz @alice

                                        You can hardly blame them for clicking “Accept All”, since attempting to reject cookies will often lead the user down a rabbit hole of dark patterns, instead of accessing whatever site you actually wanted to see.

                                        Firefox + uBlock Origin (and custom filter lists) happily helps me reject and not see such things on the pages I visit

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                                        #109

                                        @dusk Yes, it takes much longer. And I don't blame them, I just get a little jolt of "oops!" since they seem to do it without even considering what they are agreeing to. I also use ublock, and I like it.

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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                                          #110

                                          @alice The scary thing is that most of them "don't mind". They're also watching "regular" TV with ad breaks every 10-15 minutes and barely even think about it happening. They're just soaking it up subconsciously. They don't know there's an alternative. They haven't got a slightest clue what Fediverse, Mastodon, Matrix et al or what the concept of self-hosting is. Some of them have noticed Signal mentioned, since our national police force twice went out and said that parents should be worried if they see their children using it. They don't know what it is though. When you try to explain what it does you can see the their eyes glazing over with disinterest almost immediately. They all still use Facebook, Instagram and TikTok all the time. They just "don't mind". The ones using YouTube don't really care about the massive amounts of ads there either. This is all ages from at least 28 and up (I very rarely meet or come across people younger than that). Finding someone working outside anything related to IT who is even remotely interested in this is still _super rare_, even in circles where government or state secrets are being handled. Getting someone at your employer to make it possible to add an ad-blocker to the Edge browser on work laptops is unthinkable. "A what?" The Snowden revelations didn't make even a dent over here. This is in Scandinavia.

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