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God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

    smolbrain@floofy.techS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #30

    @alice very... very carefully

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

      drahardja@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #31

      @alice I don’t install an ad blocker on my work computer because…internal software reasons…and I *loathe* looking at web pages on it.

      I guess it’s a good way to keep me from browsing the web on work hardware.

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      • thegreatllama@kolektiva.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #32

        @alice @eldersea
        That was a handy feature. Also excellent for hotel rooms where they've chosen to provide the room with a remote that doesn't have certain features like menu access (all I want from my hotel TV is accessible wifi and an HDMI so I can plug in my own device).

        I've been known to pay them back for the inconvenience by blocking right wing news channels.

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

          starlily@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #33

          @alice Pi-Hole https://pi-hole.net

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          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

            God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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            #34

            @alice And don't even get me started on how people use and want smart TVs

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

              calvin@fedi.sphericalcow.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #35

              @alice@lgbtqia.space I can't believe there are people out there just raw-dogging the internet, completely exposed to trackers and obnoxious ads assaulting their senses.

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              • aly@mastodon.nzA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #36

                @alice @calvin What's your protection of choice these days?

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                • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #37

                  @alice

                  Not to mention the additional power consumption/battery drain

                  At times I am "forced" to use a regular browser with no extensions, hosts file, pi-hole or similar. And I actually audibly curse every. Single. Time.

                  Also, countdown till someone boasts about their datacap

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                  • ellesaurus@toot.lgbtE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #38

                    @alice It always surprises me when people complain about ads, because I would have expected them to have tried solving their issue, or be asking about a way to solve it. Not judging, just odd.

                    I rarely see an ad to the point where I'm viscerally offended when I do. At the risk of sounding boomerish, I'm not sure exactly when, but some time between the 90s and now ads when from, "Let me show you how great my product is!" to "Let our marketing team jerk themselves off because fuck our customers"

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                    • sagaliciouzzz@fribygda.noS sagaliciouzzz@fribygda.no

                      @alice I'm a teacher, I use adblockers, automatic cookie decliners and similar addons. Sometimes I assign my students online grammar exercises. When I see the same website I always get a shock and try to gently suggest that maybe they should look into getting an adblocker. Similarly, my heart drops everytime they just click "accept all" to get the cookie banner to disappear as quickly as possible.

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                      #39

                      @Sagaliciouzzz @alice

                      You can hardly blame them for clicking “Accept All”, since attempting to reject cookies will often lead the user down a rabbit hole of dark patterns, instead of accessing whatever site you actually wanted to see.

                      Firefox + uBlock Origin (and custom filter lists) happily helps me reject and not see such things on the pages I visit

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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                        #40

                        @alice

                        Horribly. It's horrible. I don't know how to help them.

                        We have to burn it down.

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                        • calvin@fedi.sphericalcow.spaceC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #41

                          @alice@lgbtqia.space @aly@mastodon.nz I have both uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger, but I don't know if they are redundant.

                          I thought about PiHole but it seems a bit overkill for me. Other than ad-blocking across the whole LAN, does it do something that uBlock doesn't? I worry about my roommates having something internet-related break on them because I'm putting something between them and the internet, and I'm just a common network moron.

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                          • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                            God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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                            #42

                            @alice this could explain why so many people just talk to chatbots instead of actively browsing the internet

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                            • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                              @alice I don’t install an ad blocker on my work computer because…internal software reasons…and I *loathe* looking at web pages on it.

                              I guess it’s a good way to keep me from browsing the web on work hardware.

                              jrbd@theforkiverse.comJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #43

                              @drahardja Back in my days as a big-company software developer (30+ years ago), I turned off Javascript in my browser and caught flack from mgmt because they had a web page that had glitzy useless scripted stuff on it. There was also a group of us who used Linux, but had to reboot to Windows daily to log our hours. Nowadays I use pihole at home and am pretty happy with it.

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                              • ricko@tech.lgbtR ricko@tech.lgbt

                                @alice In addition to the usual stuff on the desktop, I've been running Rethink DNS on my Android for a few years now. It's absolute stomach-churning to see how much tracking garbage is in every single app.

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                                #44

                                @ricko @alice I installed Rethink DNS on my then stock Google Pixel a few months ago and a few minutes of seeing Google Play Services making requests once every 2 seconds was enough to eventually convince me to install GrapheneOS.

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  @DavidNielsen someone asked "how do you even keep track of all your followers?" and I said I make tiny hair dolls for each one, so I can tell whenever one is out of place.

                                  Then I spent over an hour searching for the perfect photo of a small, real human (or cat) hair effigy.

                                  I was disappointed that I couldn't find just the right image, so I started searching for felting instructions so I could make my own.

                                  Like a perfectly normal person.

                                  I'm now the proud owner of this.

                                  Like a perfectly normal person.

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                                  #45

                                  @alice @DavidNielsen Pet my effigy and tell it she's a good girl :3

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    @DavidNielsen someone asked "how do you even keep track of all your followers?" and I said I make tiny hair dolls for each one, so I can tell whenever one is out of place.

                                    Then I spent over an hour searching for the perfect photo of a small, real human (or cat) hair effigy.

                                    I was disappointed that I couldn't find just the right image, so I started searching for felting instructions so I could make my own.

                                    Like a perfectly normal person.

                                    I'm now the proud owner of this.

                                    Like a perfectly normal person.

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                                    #46

                                    @alice @DavidNielsen I try to get one shitpost per toot, at a time, with great effort, but you go and do this? There's material here for at least five.

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      @DavidNielsen someone asked "how do you even keep track of all your followers?" and I said I make tiny hair dolls for each one, so I can tell whenever one is out of place.

                                      Then I spent over an hour searching for the perfect photo of a small, real human (or cat) hair effigy.

                                      I was disappointed that I couldn't find just the right image, so I started searching for felting instructions so I could make my own.

                                      Like a perfectly normal person.

                                      I'm now the proud owner of this.

                                      Like a perfectly normal person.

                                      alien@mastodon.greenA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #47

                                      @alice @DavidNielsen w what wha

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                                      • starlily@mastodon.socialS starlily@mastodon.social

                                        @alice Pi-Hole https://pi-hole.net

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                                        #48

                                        @starlily @alice I’m blocking around 7% of DNS queries with #pihole. My primary battle these days is with #IoT devices that want to call home every few seconds to minutes. I’m just now learning that there are IPv6 techniques for bypassing pi-hole. Other methods as well. It’s hand-to-hand combat with trackers! Worse, many of the devices simply fail if you block their WAN access.

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                                        • 401matthall@mastodon.xyz4 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #49

                                          @alice

                                          You ever read Nightfall by Isaac Asimov? Either the short-story or the novelization of it. Both are good.

                                          But... That. We have to do what they did.

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