Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
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@stefan @hpod16 This is a 2025 report. And one from Jan 2026, Insta active monthly users over 2 billion. When I came here I wanted Cats, Science and Warcraft. I follow those but very limited activity, but lots of Politics. That might be part of the problem. People are burned out on Politics except for a few hard core people.
@MissWarcraft Maybe, but I don't think so. Political content seems to do really well on Bluesky, I see a ton of it getting shared widely.
I think it's just the toxic culture here. I've seen so many people driven out. There are too many self-righteous, gate-keepy people. On Bluesky, you can at least lock your replies, no wonder people feel safer there.
Compare the drop-off on https://mastodon-analytics.com vs https://bluefacts.app/bluesky-user-growth.
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@hpod16 I agree
I ended up on Reddit rabbit holes and documentation pages to learn some things. This user type will however not search and if they can't ask their friends or family for help, they give up.Still, steps are taken to make this process more user friendly, which is great!
@lucien which is one of the main reasons I greet every new person I see apply to our instance—so they immediately know someone here.
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@stefan @hpod16 BlueSky has 4 Million active monthly users too. Lot of Gaming, Cats. And they cracked down on the hate. The moderators issued warnings about that and it slowly stopped. Companies do not like hate, they know people from all demographics use their product. That is something hateful people don't realize.
@MissWarcraft I think it's a combination of the fediverse attracting a more techy, less socially adept crowd, with no tools for defending against harassment and unhelpful comments.
There was a hope that at least some of it was due to Mastodon not showing all replies, so people would keep piling on, but I am not sure that was really the problem.
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@alice the internet needs more people like that
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@hpod16 the problem is that the same people that don't know will run into lots of UX issues when trying Fediverse. I know a few sadly...
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them.
@hpod16 hope to see more of them here.
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 I don't hold out a lot of faith on the median level of intelligence or common sense for the FB crowd. Nothing surprises me with that lot any more.
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@lucien @hpod16 Facebook users might also be more comfortable with Friendica rather than Mastodon.
Maybe collaborate with Friendica developers to get a good beginner's guide for Facebook users going?
When working on such a guide, it's always good to have the view of somebody completely new to the software like yourself.
@gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
My experience of friendica was awful. Full of dodgy accounts and some very nasty porn. Otherwise the only posts I saw were from Mastodon.
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 a special Facebook only for certified citizens of one place sounds like deepest hell
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 wow, great! @EUCommission
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@gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
My experience of friendica was awful. Full of dodgy accounts and some very nasty porn. Otherwise the only posts I saw were from Mastodon.
I'm hoping it's improved since.@Sarahw @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
Mainly depending the server you are connected.
We have choice, many choice, and we also can move from one to another, have several accounts, choose clients too.
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@realcaseyrollins @lucien oh dang, there goes my excuse to ignore DMs! But thanks for telling me!
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@hpod16 was the fediverse created in europe? it's insane to say this when the technology itself is being mantained and expanded by people all around the world, including americans, asians, south americans, africans, etc.
@nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social yesn't. The group designing ActivityPub as protocol was probably international and intercontinental. But the biggest name in that space, Mastodon, is very much German software
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@nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social yesn't. The group designing ActivityPub as protocol was probably international and intercontinental. But the biggest name in that space, Mastodon, is very much German software
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@nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social eh, not really. Sure, misskey is a big part now. But the big initial push was Mastodon. And, by share, Masto still runs on like 3/4 of all servers iirc. And you can still claim that Masto is German because the main driving force behind development is still the non-profit, located in Germany (even if German government bullshit caused them to also register in Canada iirc)
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@nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social eh, not really. Sure, misskey is a big part now. But the big initial push was Mastodon. And, by share, Masto still runs on like 3/4 of all servers iirc. And you can still claim that Masto is German because the main driving force behind development is still the non-profit, located in Germany (even if German government bullshit caused them to also register in Canada iirc)
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@nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social I think some context might have got lost. Your initial question was if the fediverse was created in Europe. To which the answer is that the protocol wasn't, but the software that made it famous was, especially during that initial growth period.
Of course it's a lot more diverse nowadays and that diversity keeps increasing. One of the biggest seeds was and still is European though -
Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 it is not the problem . Facebook is the only one who is about people you known rather then artists, celebrities , companies etx
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Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
The European Commission likes to tell them. @hpod16 ...and then propose a new proprietary network "W"
