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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

    A long shot. Does anyone know if the font/typeface that Casio used for the keys on their calculators back in the days is available as TrueType or SVG anywhere? I am weirdly fascinated by it and would love to use it for some displays.

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    #27

    @jwildeboer

    Off hand I'd say that was Eurostile / Microgramma.

    There might be an inexpensive font that is similar

    https://typesetinthefuture.com/2014/11/29/fontspots-eurostile/

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    • animaux@oslo.townA animaux@oslo.town

      @raymaccarthy @jwildeboer I think we can top that! 🙂

      1. Casio logo-font
      2. Serif »fx-115D«-font
      3. Italic »SUPER«-font
      4. Font for »COMPLEX«
      5. Button and on-display-fonts (Eurostyle)
      6. possibly extra fonts for greek letters and mathematic symbols

      Maybe @kupfers likes to chime in?

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      #28

      @animaux @raymaccarthy @kupfers Eurostile not Eurostyle 😉 /pedantic

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        A long shot. Does anyone know if the font/typeface that Casio used for the keys on their calculators back in the days is available as TrueType or SVG anywhere? I am weirdly fascinated by it and would love to use it for some displays.

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        #29

        @jwildeboer Those numeric keys go way back. The same lettering for the digits was used for the Casio fx-8 in 1977; that was Casio's first handheld scientific calculator with a LCD screen.

        The first Casio battery handheld scientific calculator, the fx-1 (1972) and its successor the fx-10 (1974), used a different font for the numeric keys and had LED displays.

        So I doubt you'll get an exact match for the typeface from original materials. Something close will have to do.

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          Thank you all! Consensus seems to be that Eurostile [1] and Microgramma-d [2] are very close. The TTFs that Casio itself distributes [3] for teachers are not really that clean, in my opinion, and only contain the keys, not the other characters.

          UPDATE: Bitstream Square 721 Std is even closer and might be The One 🙂

          [1] https://fontsgeek.com/eurostile-font
          [2] https://fontsgeek.com/microgramma-d-extended-font
          [3] https://edu.casio.com/forteachers/er/fontsets/index.php

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          #30

          @jwildeboer To be clear, Microgramma is the original, from all the way back in 1952, and was uppercase only.

          In the early 60s, two versions that extended it with lowercase letters were made, one of which was Eurostile (while the other remained Microgramma).

          Various digitizations of both fonts were later made, including Bitstream's version, which would have been some time in the 80s/early 90s, and seems to have been made specifically from Eurostile.

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          • mangled_pixel@kind.socialM mangled_pixel@kind.social

            @jwildeboer To be clear, Microgramma is the original, from all the way back in 1952, and was uppercase only.

            In the early 60s, two versions that extended it with lowercase letters were made, one of which was Eurostile (while the other remained Microgramma).

            Various digitizations of both fonts were later made, including Bitstream's version, which would have been some time in the 80s/early 90s, and seems to have been made specifically from Eurostile.

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            #31

            @jwildeboer Oh, and btw, the word COMPLEX on that fx-115D is set in Handel Gothic.

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            • mangled_pixel@kind.socialM mangled_pixel@kind.social

              @jwildeboer To be clear, Microgramma is the original, from all the way back in 1952, and was uppercase only.

              In the early 60s, two versions that extended it with lowercase letters were made, one of which was Eurostile (while the other remained Microgramma).

              Various digitizations of both fonts were later made, including Bitstream's version, which would have been some time in the 80s/early 90s, and seems to have been made specifically from Eurostile.

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              #32

              @mangled_pixel TIL (Today I Learned)! Thank you for sharing this 🙂

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                @mangled_pixel TIL (Today I Learned)! Thank you for sharing this 🙂

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                #33

                @jwildeboer Happy to help. Oh, and I've often used Michroma (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Michroma) as an alternative to Eurostile/Microgramma, if you're looking for something free in the same style, without worrying about complete accuracy.

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  A long shot. Does anyone know if the font/typeface that Casio used for the keys on their calculators back in the days is available as TrueType or SVG anywhere? I am weirdly fascinated by it and would love to use it for some displays.

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                  #34

                  @jwildeboer looks like Microgramma?

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                  • ancient_domains_of_word@monads.onlineA ancient_domains_of_word@monads.online

                    @jwildeboer it looks like a vertically squashed version of Eurostile

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                    #35

                    @ancient_domains_of_word @jwildeboer
                    Eurostile Candy?

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                    • mangled_pixel@kind.socialM mangled_pixel@kind.social

                      @jwildeboer Happy to help. Oh, and I've often used Michroma (https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Michroma) as an alternative to Eurostile/Microgramma, if you're looking for something free in the same style, without worrying about complete accuracy.

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                      #36

                      @mangled_pixel Ah, that’s the complicated thing. I do care about accuracy and I will happily pay for that, as my folder with typefaces I bought over the years proves 😉

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                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                        A long shot. Does anyone know if the font/typeface that Casio used for the keys on their calculators back in the days is available as TrueType or SVG anywhere? I am weirdly fascinated by it and would love to use it for some displays.

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                        #37

                        @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net @formschub@fnordon.de Du vielleicht?

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                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                          @mangled_pixel Ah, that’s the complicated thing. I do care about accuracy and I will happily pay for that, as my folder with typefaces I bought over the years proves 😉

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                          #38

                          @jwildeboer

                          It is a lovely font, I can see why you’re fixated on it. 🙂

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                          • pahoittelemme@mastodontti.fiP pahoittelemme@mastodontti.fi

                            @jwildeboer

                            @ilkkajii might have some clues.

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                            #39

                            @pahoittelemme @jwildeboer Seems that internet was faster than me. Again. 😄

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                            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                              @mangled_pixel Ah, that’s the complicated thing. I do care about accuracy and I will happily pay for that, as my folder with typefaces I bought over the years proves 😉

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                              #40

                              @jwildeboer It's an interesting era to do font identification in, as the 90s were the transition period between pad-printing (such as on a device like that) being designed with with dry-transfer lettering like Letraset (possibly manipulated with phototypesetting methods), to digital. That design has a few examples where the letters are clearly squashed/stretched to fit the keys, which would have been hard (though not impossible) to achieve with phototypesetting, but easy to do digitally.

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                              • hans@tuebingen.networkH hans@tuebingen.network

                                @jwildeboer It is very similar to Eurostile. There is a free version of that around called QT Eurotype (developed for use in LaTeX iirc but available as OpenType)

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                                #41

                                @Hans @jwildeboer definitely eurostile. Just look at that lovely long bar on the G, or the 'swoosh' at the junction of the K

                                Casio also used Eurostile on the G-Shock and F91 series of watches, so I think it's more likely than not to be the same typeface on the calculator

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                                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                  @lfourrier The ones on the keys. It seems Bitstream Square 721 Std Extended is very close.

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                                  #42

                                  @jwildeboer It seems to me it is perhaps between regular and extended , but it’s clearly not far

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                                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                    Thank you all! Consensus seems to be that Eurostile [1] and Microgramma-d [2] are very close. The TTFs that Casio itself distributes [3] for teachers are not really that clean, in my opinion, and only contain the keys, not the other characters.

                                    UPDATE: Bitstream Square 721 Std is even closer and might be The One 🙂

                                    [1] https://fontsgeek.com/eurostile-font
                                    [2] https://fontsgeek.com/microgramma-d-extended-font
                                    [3] https://edu.casio.com/forteachers/er/fontsets/index.php

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                                    #43

                                    And now I want dark blue keycaps with white Microgramma characters for my keyboard. Damn 🙂

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                                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                      A long shot. Does anyone know if the font/typeface that Casio used for the keys on their calculators back in the days is available as TrueType or SVG anywhere? I am weirdly fascinated by it and would love to use it for some displays.

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                                      #44

                                      @jwildeboer Did anyone else press the buttons on that photo? No? Just me then. 😂

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                                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                        And now I want dark blue keycaps with white Microgramma characters for my keyboard. Damn 🙂

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                                        #45

                                        @jwildeboer You should look at the custom keycap process that @attoparsec came up with for his amazing ten hundred keyboard! Just a resin printer with the color you want, dye transfer for the letters, and... a substantial amount of spare time! 😀

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                                        • wiase@ibe.socialW wiase@ibe.social

                                          @jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net @formschub@fnordon.de Du vielleicht?

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                                          #46

                                          @jwildeboer @wiase Hab gesehen, die Frage ist inzwischen korrekt beantwortet worden. Eine legale *kostenfreie* Möglichkeit, auf die Schrift zuzugreifen, kenne ich leider nicht.

                                          Bei Interesse: Ich hab vor einiger Zeit zu genau dieser Schriftart mal einen etwas nerdigen Blogbeitrag geschrieben … 😬

                                          https://tyfudewo.de/24-01-2025/

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