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From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off.

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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

    elmiko@fosstodon.orgE darthvader42@sueden.socialD matus_chochlik@mastodon.onlineM ftranschel@norden.socialF sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS 9 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

      elmiko@fosstodon.orgE This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @jwildeboer it's disgusting, our state is fully supporting wanton murder by ICE.

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

        darthvader42@sueden.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @jwildeboer What I really wonder is that - given the amount of firearms in the US - that no one seems to use them againt #ICE bastards.
        If someone would try to deport a family member or a good friend and I had a gun I'd definitely use it.

        jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ drwho@masto.hackers.townD 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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        • darthvader42@sueden.socialD darthvader42@sueden.social

          @jwildeboer What I really wonder is that - given the amount of firearms in the US - that no one seems to use them againt #ICE bastards.
          If someone would try to deport a family member or a good friend and I had a gun I'd definitely use it.

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          @darthvader42 And then your whole family would likely die in the crossfire from these agents. Guns are never a solution. "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." — Isaac Asimov

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          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

            @darthvader42 And then your whole family would likely die in the crossfire from these agents. Guns are never a solution. "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." — Isaac Asimov

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            #5

            @jwildeboer I consider them as final option.

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            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

              matus_chochlik@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @jwildeboer the good old imperial boomerang

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_boomerang

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

                ftranschel@norden.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @jwildeboer I don't see how anybody can look at this and claim it'd be any different than Iran, Russia or North Korea, really.

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                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                  From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

                  sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @jwildeboer no they don’t. They’re fleeing the scene of a crime. Murder is still illegal in this country no matter what President fucktard says, whether it be a civilian or a gestapo agent.

                  jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ drwho@masto.hackers.townD 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                    From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

                    schmaker@schmaker.euS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9
                    @jwildeboer What I consider even more dangerous is, when government tries to cover these incidents with utter bullshit. I consider this being the actual scary part...
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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

                      polypunk@punkstodon.deP This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @jwildeboer
                      Related: https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/afd-fraktion-will-abschiebe-polizei-nach-trumps-vorbild-ice

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                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                        From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

                        paul@social.lightlyseared.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @jwildeboer Indeed. The complete lack of accountability is beyond belief.

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                        • sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS sayonaraminasan@urusai.social

                          @jwildeboer no they don’t. They’re fleeing the scene of a crime. Murder is still illegal in this country no matter what President fucktard says, whether it be a civilian or a gestapo agent.

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                          #12

                          @sayonaraminasan Legal experts are quite subdued about going after these agents. See for example https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/08/politics/ice-immunity-jd-vance-minneapolis

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                          • darthvader42@sueden.socialD darthvader42@sueden.social

                            @jwildeboer What I really wonder is that - given the amount of firearms in the US - that no one seems to use them againt #ICE bastards.
                            If someone would try to deport a family member or a good friend and I had a gun I'd definitely use it.

                            drwho@masto.hackers.townD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @darthvader42 @jwildeboer The USians who have all those firearms are climbing all over each other to join ICE.

                            Everybody took them at their word, and didn't listen to what they said to each other.

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                            • sayonaraminasan@urusai.socialS sayonaraminasan@urusai.social

                              @jwildeboer no they don’t. They’re fleeing the scene of a crime. Murder is still illegal in this country no matter what President fucktard says, whether it be a civilian or a gestapo agent.

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                              @sayonaraminasan @jwildeboer Laws only matter if they're enforced. And they're not.

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                              • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                                @sayonaraminasan @jwildeboer Laws only matter if they're enforced. And they're not.

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                                #15

                                @drwho @sayonaraminasan @jwildeboer
                                This!

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                                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                  From my European perspective the most shocking thing about these ICE shootings in the US is that the shooters can simply walk away, step into a car and drive off. Because they know they have impunity.

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                                  #16

                                  @jwildeboer
                                  My US, Minnesota perspective, too.

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                                  • drwho@masto.hackers.townD drwho@masto.hackers.town

                                    @sayonaraminasan @jwildeboer Laws only matter if they're enforced. And they're not.

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                                    #17

                                    @drwho they will be enforced one way another. The body count hasn’t risen past the critical threshold yet, but one it does you can count on there being justice done either officially through the state or by the general population. @jwildeboer

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