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This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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  • doctorg_1@social.vivaldi.netD doctorg_1@social.vivaldi.net

    @svuorela @kde
    German petition not on epetitionen.bundestag.de.
    You force me to register on a different website?
    No thanks!

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    svuorela@floss.social
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    #32

    @DoctorG_1 hi. I sent the link to the Danish petition on the official Danish site?

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    • torstentorsten@social.tchncs.deT torstentorsten@social.tchncs.de shared this topic
    • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

      This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

      https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

      This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

      If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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      Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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      #33

      @kde can legal residents sign it as well, or only citizens?

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      • hacknorris@mstdn.socialH hacknorris@mstdn.social

        @kde nope i don't. in my country they care mostly about using american tech (gafam), and where funding OSS (not saying about FLOSS)…

        wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW This user is from outside of this forum
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        #34

        @hacknorris @kde just because the government is shitty doesn't mean there aren't grassroots initiatives to push FOSS usage…

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        • wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW wojtek@social.vivaldi.net

          @hacknorris @kde just because the government is shitty doesn't mean there aren't grassroots initiatives to push FOSS usage…

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          #35

          @wojtek @kde yeah. possibly only a pack of 10 guys over irc. i doubt more…

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          • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

            This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

            https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

            This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

            If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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            Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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            #36

            @kde It really seems worth supporting, not sure why it would need my home adress though...

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            • hacknorris@mstdn.socialH hacknorris@mstdn.social

              @wojtek @kde yeah. possibly only a pack of 10 guys over irc. i doubt more…

              wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW This user is from outside of this forum
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              #37

              @hacknorris @kde just found this lovely comparison… "it ain't that bad" it seems? 😉

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              • wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW wojtek@social.vivaldi.net

                @hacknorris @kde just found this lovely comparison… "it ain't that bad" it seems? 😉

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                #38

                @wojtek wai-
                THAT'S FROM PROTON???

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                • n8chz@hachyderm.ioN n8chz@hachyderm.io

                  @kde@floss.socia

                  I know little of legal matters. One thing about the American situation for FLOSS, that I learned from @pluralistic but I forgot where I read it, is that open source projects have to be "educational" projects in order to qualify for status as non-profit organizations. I've long had the impression that US tax law is designed to aggressively prevent competition between the non-profit sector and the for-profit sector, and absolutely rule out competition between the public sector and the private sector.

                  @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @Krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe

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                  #39

                  @n8chz @pluralistic @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe I'm not aware of any legal status of "volunteering" in the United States; in almost all cases services/labor cannot be donated.

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                  • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                    @kde

                    It's hard for me to see what that should look like. If I work on a personal project with no other users, is that volunteer work? How is that different from working in my own front garden (is that volunteering in Germany)?

                    If my employer releases my work as F/OSS, can they count my time as volunteering for any tax purposes? What about if it's a F/OSS component that is useful only in conjunction with some non-Free thing that they sell?

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                    #40

                    @david_chisnall@infosec.exchange @kde@floss.social See the things listed as comparable, and ask the same thing. That should give you the answer ​​

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                    • necrosis@chaos.socialN necrosis@chaos.social shared this topic
                    • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                      This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                      https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

                      This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                      If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                      ---

                      Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

                      jessebot@social.smallhack.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #41

                      @kde Oh, this is really cool!

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                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                        This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                        https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

                        This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                        If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                        ---

                        Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

                        moin@gruene.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        moin@gruene.social
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                        #42

                        @kde
                        For some reason it doesnt like my mail adress...

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                        • amberage@eldritch.cafeA amberage@eldritch.cafe

                          @kde and where's the petition that actually has a chance of achieving anything?

                          Where's the parliamentary e-petition?

                          Because petitions on whatever platforms are pointless. Petitions filed with the Bundestag petition committee actually force the parliament to discuss them if they pass the threshold.

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                          #43

                          @amberage

                          It made me wonder whether this "OpenPetition" wasn't some shady data collection endeavour.

                          What is the point in collecting home addresses, if this is an unofficial petition with no public entity confirming addresses?

                          Why can only German citizens participate?

                          For official petitions to the Federal Parliament (also quorum 30K persons), neither citizenship nor residence within the country is required.

                          It all seems to be a great idea, but the platform makes me suspicious.

                          @kde

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