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This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

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  • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

    This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

    https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

    This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

    If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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    Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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    #23
    @kde without the efforts of developers Linux wouldn't be where is it now, especially with gaming so yea thanks to all devs ❤️
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    • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

      This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

      https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

      This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

      If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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      Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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      #24

      @kde

      It's hard for me to see what that should look like. If I work on a personal project with no other users, is that volunteer work? How is that different from working in my own front garden (is that volunteering in Germany)?

      If my employer releases my work as F/OSS, can they count my time as volunteering for any tax purposes? What about if it's a F/OSS component that is useful only in conjunction with some non-Free thing that they sell?

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      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

        This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

        https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

        This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

        If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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        Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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        #25

        @kde ja!

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        • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

          @kde

          It's hard for me to see what that should look like. If I work on a personal project with no other users, is that volunteer work? How is that different from working in my own front garden (is that volunteering in Germany)?

          If my employer releases my work as F/OSS, can they count my time as volunteering for any tax purposes? What about if it's a F/OSS component that is useful only in conjunction with some non-Free thing that they sell?

          monospace@floss.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #26

          @david_chisnall It's similar to charity work. There are definitions what counts as such, entry criteria and assessments. The goal, as I understand it, is to make FLOSS work first of all eligible to be classified as Volunteer Work.
          @kde

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          • monospace@floss.socialM monospace@floss.social

            @david_chisnall It's similar to charity work. There are definitions what counts as such, entry criteria and assessments. The goal, as I understand it, is to make FLOSS work first of all eligible to be classified as Volunteer Work.
            @kde

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            #27

            @monospace @kde

            It's similar to charity work

            So qualifying F/OSS projects will require a load of compliance work that doesn't make sense unless your turnover in donations is large?

            I'm not familiar with what counts as volunteer work in general for tax / legal purposes in Germany.

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            • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

              @monospace @kde

              It's similar to charity work

              So qualifying F/OSS projects will require a load of compliance work that doesn't make sense unless your turnover in donations is large?

              I'm not familiar with what counts as volunteer work in general for tax / legal purposes in Germany.

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              #28

              @david_chisnall I don't know the intricacies either, but I'm sure there will be some amount of red tape. No free lunch, but at least it would be an option.
              @kde

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              • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

                This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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                Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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                #29

                @kde and where's the petition that actually has a chance of achieving anything?

                Where's the parliamentary e-petition?

                Because petitions on whatever platforms are pointless. Petitions filed with the Bundestag petition committee actually force the parliament to discuss them if they pass the threshold.

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                • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                  Do you have something similar in your country? Why not help your national FLOSS projects get the status and support they often desperately need? Start your own petition!

                  @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @Krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe

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                  #30

                  @kde@floss.socia

                  I know little of legal matters. One thing about the American situation for FLOSS, that I learned from @pluralistic but I forgot where I read it, is that open source projects have to be "educational" projects in order to qualify for status as non-profit organizations. I've long had the impression that US tax law is designed to aggressively prevent competition between the non-profit sector and the for-profit sector, and absolutely rule out competition between the public sector and the private sector.

                  @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @Krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe

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                  • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                    This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                    https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

                    This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                    If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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                    Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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                    #31

                    @kde A very good endeavour, I hope this succeeds.

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                    • doctorg_1@social.vivaldi.netD doctorg_1@social.vivaldi.net

                      @svuorela @kde
                      German petition not on epetitionen.bundestag.de.
                      You force me to register on a different website?
                      No thanks!

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                      #32

                      @DoctorG_1 hi. I sent the link to the Danish petition on the official Danish site?

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                      • torstentorsten@social.tchncs.deT torstentorsten@social.tchncs.de shared this topic
                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                        This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                        https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

                        This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                        If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

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                        Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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                        #33

                        @kde can legal residents sign it as well, or only citizens?

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                        • hacknorris@mstdn.socialH hacknorris@mstdn.social

                          @kde nope i don't. in my country they care mostly about using american tech (gafam), and where funding OSS (not saying about FLOSS)…

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                          #34

                          @hacknorris @kde just because the government is shitty doesn't mean there aren't grassroots initiatives to push FOSS usage…

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                          • wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW wojtek@social.vivaldi.net

                            @hacknorris @kde just because the government is shitty doesn't mean there aren't grassroots initiatives to push FOSS usage…

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                            #35

                            @wojtek @kde yeah. possibly only a pack of 10 guys over irc. i doubt more…

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                            • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                              This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                              https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

                              This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                              If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                              ---

                              Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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                              #36

                              @kde It really seems worth supporting, not sure why it would need my home adress though...

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                              • hacknorris@mstdn.socialH hacknorris@mstdn.social

                                @wojtek @kde yeah. possibly only a pack of 10 guys over irc. i doubt more…

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                                #37

                                @hacknorris @kde just found this lovely comparison… "it ain't that bad" it seems? 😉

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                                • wojtek@social.vivaldi.netW wojtek@social.vivaldi.net

                                  @hacknorris @kde just found this lovely comparison… "it ain't that bad" it seems? 😉

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                                  #38

                                  @wojtek wai-
                                  THAT'S FROM PROTON???

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                                  • n8chz@hachyderm.ioN n8chz@hachyderm.io

                                    @kde@floss.socia

                                    I know little of legal matters. One thing about the American situation for FLOSS, that I learned from @pluralistic but I forgot where I read it, is that open source projects have to be "educational" projects in order to qualify for status as non-profit organizations. I've long had the impression that US tax law is designed to aggressively prevent competition between the non-profit sector and the for-profit sector, and absolutely rule out competition between the public sector and the private sector.

                                    @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @Krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe

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                                    #39

                                    @n8chz @pluralistic @tdforg @gnome @Blender @fedora @krita @kdenlive @videolan @fsfe I'm not aware of any legal status of "volunteering" in the United States; in almost all cases services/labor cannot be donated.

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                                    • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                                      @kde

                                      It's hard for me to see what that should look like. If I work on a personal project with no other users, is that volunteer work? How is that different from working in my own front garden (is that volunteering in Germany)?

                                      If my employer releases my work as F/OSS, can they count my time as volunteering for any tax purposes? What about if it's a F/OSS component that is useful only in conjunction with some non-Free thing that they sell?

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                                      #40

                                      @david_chisnall@infosec.exchange @kde@floss.social See the things listed as comparable, and ask the same thing. That should give you the answer ​​

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                                      • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                                        This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                                        https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

                                        This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                                        If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                                        ---

                                        Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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                                        #41

                                        @kde Oh, this is really cool!

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                                        • kde@floss.socialK kde@floss.social

                                          This petition wants contributing to Free Software to be legally and officially recognized as volunteering in Germany on the same level as youth work or ambulance service:

                                          https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/recognition-of-work-on-open-source-as-volunteering-in-germany#petition-main

                                          This would bring fiscal and funding advantages for FLOSS organizations and the volunteers themselves.

                                          If you are a German citizen, please sign the petition and let's get our volunteers the recognition they deserve!

                                          ---

                                          Photo credit: Redazione Cultura. distributed under CC By SA license

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                                          #42

                                          @kde
                                          For some reason it doesnt like my mail adress...

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