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There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

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  • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

    @PedestrianError @mynameistillian @syhr fine then don't have it in your country. Campaign for it to be dropped entirely in your country.

    Don't tell people in other countries how to run things...different situation, different politics, we are not the US.

    Also I know something about the dropping of the marker, that was Trump, he caused the headaches, not us?

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    #89

    @radioclash And there's no risk of Reform UK gaining power or the conservatives coming back with a vengeance? The same issue exists around the world, the same campaigns happen. Opting not to compare notes or observe what has happened elsewhere may be shortsighted. Best of luck to you.

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    • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
      @Starcross @syhr data is checked against a registry of citizens AFAIK
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      #90

      @alexia @Starcross @syhr So far as I know there is no such register in the UK. We have a whole lot of different incomplete and inconsistent databases for the NHS, births and deaths, naturalisation, passports, residence for council tax purposes, etc. Each of those either includes some non-citizens or excludes some citizens.

      Besides which, the petition site is supposed to be open to both citizens and residents.

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      • jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.orgJ jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.org

        @Starcross @syhr yes.

        It's an official UK government petition site. They have access to the full electoral role. They routinely check large petitions against it and remove signatures that don't match.

        So, I guess you could easily do that, but it's pretty pointless.

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        #91

        @jetlagjen @Starcross @syhr What makes you think they check against the electoral roll? Petitions are supposedly open to all UK residents, not only those who can vote

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        • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

          There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

          The deadline to sign is March 2026 and at the time of writing only 213 people have signed.

          Let's show them the power of the Fediverse. At 100,000 signatures, the petition will be debated in Parliament.

          Sign 👇

          https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/738780

          #NonBinary #Enby #Trans #Transgender #Queer #LGBTQ #LGBT #UK #UKMastodon #Fediverse

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          #92

          boost with CW: ukpol (+)

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          • seabass@social.seabass.systemsS seabass@social.seabass.systems

            @sirjoho @syhr @sunflowerinrain Absolutely true, but a simple gender marker doesn't come close to providing enough information for a medical emergency. There was an attempt to introduce an electronic card that would contain (or provide access to) one's medical records about twenty years ago, but that was abandoned after it went embarrassingly over-budget.

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            #93

            @seabass @syhr @sunflowerinrain imagine having a catheter inserted by an emt and they don't know your sex or assume the wrong one due to the patient's presentation. imagine not recognizing the patient is having ovarian issues or potentially ectopic pregnancy because the sex is not identified and the patient is not in their right mind to tell them. your correct sex on your ID could literally save your life.

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            • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

              There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

              The deadline to sign is March 2026 and at the time of writing only 213 people have signed.

              Let's show them the power of the Fediverse. At 100,000 signatures, the petition will be debated in Parliament.

              Sign 👇

              https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/738780

              #NonBinary #Enby #Trans #Transgender #Queer #LGBTQ #LGBT #UK #UKMastodon #Fediverse

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              #94

              @syhr signed!

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              • seabass@social.seabass.systemsS seabass@social.seabass.systems

                @sunflowerinrain @syhr Unfortunately the only mechanism that the UK has currently for changing the gender marker on a passport involves the holder of said passport obtaining a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC). It's already hard enough for trans people to get a GRC, so I don't think it'll be possible for cis people to change their gender marker any time soon. The GRC process is also very invasive so there's little chance a cis person would be willing to lie in order to get one, IMHO.

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                #95

                @seabass@social.seabass.systems @sunflowerinrain@mastodon.online @syhr@social.coop I intend to try getting an X in my passport using section 46 of the Data Protection Act (the UK's implementation of GDPR article 16, the right to rectification).

                The controller must, if so requested by a data subject, rectify without undue delay inaccurate personal data relating to the data subject.

                I don't see why this wouldn't apply to the gender marker in passports - it's definitely personal data. And it doesn't cost anything to submit a GDPR request to HMPO (and complain to the ICO if that fails) so I might as well try (although I thought of this idea in 2024 and I still haven't actually done it...)

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                • noisytoot@berkeley.edu.plN noisytoot@berkeley.edu.pl

                  @seabass@social.seabass.systems @sunflowerinrain@mastodon.online @syhr@social.coop I intend to try getting an X in my passport using section 46 of the Data Protection Act (the UK's implementation of GDPR article 16, the right to rectification).

                  The controller must, if so requested by a data subject, rectify without undue delay inaccurate personal data relating to the data subject.

                  I don't see why this wouldn't apply to the gender marker in passports - it's definitely personal data. And it doesn't cost anything to submit a GDPR request to HMPO (and complain to the ICO if that fails) so I might as well try (although I thought of this idea in 2024 and I still haven't actually done it...)

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                  #96

                  @noisytoot @sunflowerinrain @syhr I would be very interested to hear how this goes! By the way, I don't remember you identifying as non-binary in ~2022 when we first got to know each other. If this is indeed recent, congratulations on discovering that aspect of your identity 🙂

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                  • stuey@mastodon.hypnoguys.comS stuey@mastodon.hypnoguys.com

                    @syhr signed!

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                    #97

                    @Stuey 💚

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                    • j12i@weirder.earthJ j12i@weirder.earth

                      boost with CW: ukpol (+)

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                      #98

                      @j12i 💚

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                      • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

                        There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

                        The deadline to sign is March 2026 and at the time of writing only 213 people have signed.

                        Let's show them the power of the Fediverse. At 100,000 signatures, the petition will be debated in Parliament.

                        Sign 👇

                        https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/738780

                        #NonBinary #Enby #Trans #Transgender #Queer #LGBTQ #LGBT #UK #UKMastodon #Fediverse

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                        #99

                        @syhr https://reclaimthenet.org/uk-expands-online-safety-act-to-mandate-preemptive-scanning

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                        • noisytoot@berkeley.edu.plN noisytoot@berkeley.edu.pl

                          @seabass@social.seabass.systems @sunflowerinrain@mastodon.online @syhr@social.coop I intend to try getting an X in my passport using section 46 of the Data Protection Act (the UK's implementation of GDPR article 16, the right to rectification).

                          The controller must, if so requested by a data subject, rectify without undue delay inaccurate personal data relating to the data subject.

                          I don't see why this wouldn't apply to the gender marker in passports - it's definitely personal data. And it doesn't cost anything to submit a GDPR request to HMPO (and complain to the ICO if that fails) so I might as well try (although I thought of this idea in 2024 and I still haven't actually done it...)

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                          #100

                          @noisytoot @sunflowerinrain @syhr @seabass isn't the government basically exempt from that pesky thing of complying with GDPR? Or is it only certain parts of it?

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                          • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

                            There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

                            The deadline to sign is March 2026 and at the time of writing only 213 people have signed.

                            Let's show them the power of the Fediverse. At 100,000 signatures, the petition will be debated in Parliament.

                            Sign 👇

                            https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/738780

                            #NonBinary #Enby #Trans #Transgender #Queer #LGBTQ #LGBT #UK #UKMastodon #Fediverse

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                            #101

                            @syhr so on reflection, I will not be signing. It seems like a bad idea to create a database of non-binary.

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                            • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

                              There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

                              The deadline to sign is March 2026 and at the time of writing only 213 people have signed.

                              Let's show them the power of the Fediverse. At 100,000 signatures, the petition will be debated in Parliament.

                              Sign 👇

                              https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/738780

                              #NonBinary #Enby #Trans #Transgender #Queer #LGBTQ #LGBT #UK #UKMastodon #Fediverse

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                              #102

                              @syhr signed

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                              • staringatclouds@mstdn.socialS staringatclouds@mstdn.social

                                @syhr signed

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                                #103

                                @staringatclouds 💚

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                                • bwh@tech.lgbtB bwh@tech.lgbt

                                  @jetlagjen @Starcross @syhr What makes you think they check against the electoral roll? Petitions are supposedly open to all UK residents, not only those who can vote

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                                  #104

                                  @bwh @jetlagjen @Starcross @syhr tbf those are somewhat close to the same thing, ‘can vote’ is not a simple bool flag, and the rolls include plenty of people who can only vote in some elections, or indeed none.

                                  Hence you can't generally use electoral registration in things like Right To Work contexts, it doesn't in and of itself demonstrate a whole lot of anything outside of some nebulous idea you might exist.

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                                  • zbrown@floss.socialZ zbrown@floss.social

                                    @bwh @jetlagjen @Starcross @syhr tbf those are somewhat close to the same thing, ‘can vote’ is not a simple bool flag, and the rolls include plenty of people who can only vote in some elections, or indeed none.

                                    Hence you can't generally use electoral registration in things like Right To Work contexts, it doesn't in and of itself demonstrate a whole lot of anything outside of some nebulous idea you might exist.

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                                    #105

                                    @bwh @jetlagjen @Starcross @syhr I'd imagine that's just one data source they use though.

                                    The bigger question is: …why bother that hard? I'm not saying people shouldn't sign it, but also let's not kid ourselves: This isn't at all binding, it almost certainly won't get considered by the full house, and even if it was there are absolutely zero viable routes to pass that legislation.

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                                    • seabass@social.seabass.systemsS seabass@social.seabass.systems

                                      @columbduffy @mynameistillian @syhr The UK Home Office will already issue a second passport to British citizens who are deemed at particular risk for traveling to a certain country, or who would be prevented from entering a certain country with their current passport (for instance those who need to travel to Israel despite having already visited Iran).

                                      The UK adopting enbyphobic legislation is a genuinely plausible eventuality, and in such a case, being on the record as non-binary would be dangerous. But if the UK doesn't become actively hostile to non-binary people and the UK starts to allow a non-binary gender marker on new passports, I'm sure they would issue secondary passports (with a binary gender marker) for those people just as with any other group facing difficulty traveling.

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                                      #106

                                      @seabass @columbduffy @mynameistillian @syhr fascinating implication that the UK isn't currently actively hostile to non-binary people

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                                      • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

                                        There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

                                        The deadline to sign is March 2026 and at the time of writing only 213 people have signed.

                                        Let's show them the power of the Fediverse. At 100,000 signatures, the petition will be debated in Parliament.

                                        Sign 👇

                                        https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/738780

                                        #NonBinary #Enby #Trans #Transgender #Queer #LGBTQ #LGBT #UK #UKMastodon #Fediverse

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                                        #107

                                        @syhr I think we should go even beyond that. In this world where people, rightfully so, are who they want to be why even have a gender field on IDs?

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