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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
    randahl@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

    Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

    “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
    Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
    spreading hate must come at a cost.”

    Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

    https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

    jeppe@mastodon.socialJ hyevans@mastodon.socialH grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG androcat@toot.catA jgivoni@mastodon.socialJ 17 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

      Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

      “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
      Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
      spreading hate must come at a cost.”

      Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

      https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

      jeppe@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

      ecomba@ruby.socialE kimsj@mastodon.socialK stuart@social.brainsys.comS kleisli@mastodon.socialK 4 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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      • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

        @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

        ecomba@ruby.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @jeppe @randahl just a guess. If you allow that kind of content… should I continue?

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        • ecomba@ruby.socialE ecomba@ruby.social

          @jeppe @randahl just a guess. If you allow that kind of content… should I continue?

          jeppe@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @ecomba @randahl so if a small instance federates with another instance where something illegal is posted. What will happen then? The content will show up on the small instance. It will add some very hard moderation needs, which might eliminate small instances. Im absolutely not talking about allowing that stuff. Thats not what I wrote either.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

            Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

            “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
            Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
            spreading hate must come at a cost.”

            Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

            https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

            hyevans@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @randahl

            Unfortunate position of flag ...😜

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            • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

              @ecomba @randahl so if a small instance federates with another instance where something illegal is posted. What will happen then? The content will show up on the small instance. It will add some very hard moderation needs, which might eliminate small instances. Im absolutely not talking about allowing that stuff. Thats not what I wrote either.

              ecomba@ruby.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @jeppe @randahl I don’t acuse you of anything, nor did I imply. I was talking in a general sense. The federated nature of the fedi makes it a little muddier, that is very true. I still believe it’s a great move though. Some things will get harder, but as the saying goes, doing the right thing is more often than not harder.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @randahl This does not bode well for social media in general and the big platforms (Xitter, Meta, TikTok) in particular.
                At least when it comes to a Spanish legal perspective...

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                • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                  @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

                  kimsj@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @jeppe @randahl
                  Mastodon doesn’t use algorithms, so it should be safe. Bots that boost particular hashtags may be vulnerable, though.

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                  • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                    @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

                    stuart@social.brainsys.comS This user is from outside of this forum
                    stuart@social.brainsys.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @jeppe @randahl

                    Depends on whether the law has a threshold of users or revenue. This is useful as the authorities don't have to mess around with minor players and concentrate on the real offenders.

                    His sign off remark might suggest just that.

                    Most Fediverse instances' rules exclude illegal content. It that is enforced with decent moderation then there should be no risk. This proposed law is targeted at no or poorly moderated servers.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                      Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                      “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                      Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                      spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                      Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                      https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                      androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
                      androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @randahl Yup.

                      Platforms must be held accountable for any harmful content they promote - wheter through the retweets by the CEO or through algorithm.

                      If any user gets harmful contect as a "recommendation", that is on the platform, and it must be punishable.

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                      • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                        @ecomba @randahl so if a small instance federates with another instance where something illegal is posted. What will happen then? The content will show up on the small instance. It will add some very hard moderation needs, which might eliminate small instances. Im absolutely not talking about allowing that stuff. Thats not what I wrote either.

                        androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @jeppe

                        You are on the poorly moderated flagship instance. Why do you worry about small instances?

                        Small instances are super-busy blocking crap that mastodon dot social allows in.

                        @ecomba @randahl

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                        • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                          @jeppe

                          You are on the poorly moderated flagship instance. Why do you worry about small instances?

                          Small instances are super-busy blocking crap that mastodon dot social allows in.

                          @ecomba @randahl

                          jeppe@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @androcat @ecomba @randahl What does that have to do with me worrying about small instances?

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                          • stuart@social.brainsys.comS stuart@social.brainsys.com

                            @jeppe @randahl

                            Depends on whether the law has a threshold of users or revenue. This is useful as the authorities don't have to mess around with minor players and concentrate on the real offenders.

                            His sign off remark might suggest just that.

                            Most Fediverse instances' rules exclude illegal content. It that is enforced with decent moderation then there should be no risk. This proposed law is targeted at no or poorly moderated servers.

                            jeppe@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @stuart @randahl Would be good if it was based on revenue.

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                              Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                              “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                              Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                              spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                              Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                              https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                              jgivoni@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @randahl "Algorithmic manipulation", ooooh, I like how they are thinking, that term should be on everybody's tongue!

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                              • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                                @androcat @ecomba @randahl What does that have to do with me worrying about small instances?

                                androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @jeppe

                                You probably don't know much about what goes on in small instances.

                                They are very aware of the need to moderate. This is not a threat to them in any way.

                                But we can hope it's a threat to mastodon dot social, because maybe then they will start carrying their own weight.

                                @ecomba @randahl

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                                • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                                  @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

                                  kleisli@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @jeppe this will depend on how the law defines "algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content" - but as mastodon doesn't have a content algorithm (unless you consider chronological listing an algorithm) I don't think this law will apply when an instance just shows illegal content that was posted on another instance. @randahl

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                    Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                    “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                    Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                    spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                    Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                    https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                                    su_g@aus.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @randahl
                                    Wow wow wow! Watch this space! 😁

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                      Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                      “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                      Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                      spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                      Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                      https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                                      jgivoni@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @randahl Just take the opportunity to repeal Article 6 of the Copyright Directive and make it illegal for providers to block users from using a service that extracts your feed from Facebook or X and show you only what you actually want to see.

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                                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                        Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                        Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                        “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                        Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                        spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                        Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                        https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                        #19

                                        @randahl This is beyond brilliant. Maybe the start of backlash at often indulgently reckless natures of the powerful who have a chilling indifference towards those they adversely affect.

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                          Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                          “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                          Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                          spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                          Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                          https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                                          lillavee@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @randahl If the techbro pedophile club’s empire crumbles and ends, we will have cause for the first global holiday. Destroy them. Please.

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