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  • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

    @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

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    #8

    @jeppe @randahl
    Mastodon doesn’t use algorithms, so it should be safe. Bots that boost particular hashtags may be vulnerable, though.

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    • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

      @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

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      #9

      @jeppe @randahl

      Depends on whether the law has a threshold of users or revenue. This is useful as the authorities don't have to mess around with minor players and concentrate on the real offenders.

      His sign off remark might suggest just that.

      Most Fediverse instances' rules exclude illegal content. It that is enforced with decent moderation then there should be no risk. This proposed law is targeted at no or poorly moderated servers.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

        Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

        “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
        Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
        spreading hate must come at a cost.”

        Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

        https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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        #10

        @randahl Yup.

        Platforms must be held accountable for any harmful content they promote - wheter through the retweets by the CEO or through algorithm.

        If any user gets harmful contect as a "recommendation", that is on the platform, and it must be punishable.

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        • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

          @ecomba @randahl so if a small instance federates with another instance where something illegal is posted. What will happen then? The content will show up on the small instance. It will add some very hard moderation needs, which might eliminate small instances. Im absolutely not talking about allowing that stuff. Thats not what I wrote either.

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          #11

          @jeppe

          You are on the poorly moderated flagship instance. Why do you worry about small instances?

          Small instances are super-busy blocking crap that mastodon dot social allows in.

          @ecomba @randahl

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          • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

            @jeppe

            You are on the poorly moderated flagship instance. Why do you worry about small instances?

            Small instances are super-busy blocking crap that mastodon dot social allows in.

            @ecomba @randahl

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            #12

            @androcat @ecomba @randahl What does that have to do with me worrying about small instances?

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            • stuart@social.brainsys.comS stuart@social.brainsys.com

              @jeppe @randahl

              Depends on whether the law has a threshold of users or revenue. This is useful as the authorities don't have to mess around with minor players and concentrate on the real offenders.

              His sign off remark might suggest just that.

              Most Fediverse instances' rules exclude illegal content. It that is enforced with decent moderation then there should be no risk. This proposed law is targeted at no or poorly moderated servers.

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              #13

              @stuart @randahl Would be good if it was based on revenue.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                #14

                @randahl "Algorithmic manipulation", ooooh, I like how they are thinking, that term should be on everybody's tongue!

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                • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                  @androcat @ecomba @randahl What does that have to do with me worrying about small instances?

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                  #15

                  @jeppe

                  You probably don't know much about what goes on in small instances.

                  They are very aware of the need to moderate. This is not a threat to them in any way.

                  But we can hope it's a threat to mastodon dot social, because maybe then they will start carrying their own weight.

                  @ecomba @randahl

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                  • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                    @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

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                    #16

                    @jeppe this will depend on how the law defines "algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content" - but as mastodon doesn't have a content algorithm (unless you consider chronological listing an algorithm) I don't think this law will apply when an instance just shows illegal content that was posted on another instance. @randahl

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                      Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                      “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                      Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                      spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                      Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                      https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                      #17

                      @randahl
                      Wow wow wow! Watch this space! 😁

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                        Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                        “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                        Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                        spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                        Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                        https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                        #18

                        @randahl Just take the opportunity to repeal Article 6 of the Copyright Directive and make it illegal for providers to block users from using a service that extracts your feed from Facebook or X and show you only what you actually want to see.

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                          Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                          “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                          Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                          spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                          Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                          https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                          #19

                          @randahl This is beyond brilliant. Maybe the start of backlash at often indulgently reckless natures of the powerful who have a chilling indifference towards those they adversely affect.

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                            Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                            “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                            Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                            spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                            Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                            https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                            #20

                            @randahl If the techbro pedophile club’s empire crumbles and ends, we will have cause for the first global holiday. Destroy them. Please.

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                              Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                              “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                              Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                              spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                              Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                              https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                              #21

                              @randahl@mastodon.social

                              I want to have this for the entiere EU.

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                              • androcat@toot.catA androcat@toot.cat

                                @jeppe

                                You probably don't know much about what goes on in small instances.

                                They are very aware of the need to moderate. This is not a threat to them in any way.

                                But we can hope it's a threat to mastodon dot social, because maybe then they will start carrying their own weight.

                                @ecomba @randahl

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                                #22

                                @jeppe @ecomba @randahl @androcat the effect will be small. Based on the news (there is no law right now), using algorithms to spread hate, will be illegal. Mastodon does not use such "algorithms" to push engagement. So here we would be fine. The other part is content moderation. We need to get better at that. Many smaller instances are better at that. Still we need maybe new ways to improve that. However, everyone can limit hate, by not boosting it. Thus, we are part of the solution.

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                  Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                  “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                  Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                  spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                  Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                  https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                  #23

                                  @randahl @niksii This is good, obviously. The only negative is the fact that they’re planning to ban social media from teens. So teens will be punished for the crimes of social media companies.

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                    Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                    “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                    Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                    spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                    Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                    https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                    #24

                                    @randahl - 1000% - Good charge him for peddling kiddie Porn.

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                                    • grumpydad@infosec.exchangeG grumpydad@infosec.exchange

                                      @randahl This does not bode well for social media in general and the big platforms (Xitter, Meta, TikTok) in particular.
                                      At least when it comes to a Spanish legal perspective...

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                                      #25

                                      @grumpydad
                                      #PostOfTheWeek (season 3):
                                      Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez credited Morocco’s migration cooperation during a CNN interview at the World Governments Summit in Dubai, positioning the partnership as a template for European Union policy.

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                                      • A alexafontanilla2024@mastodon.social

                                        @grumpydad
                                        #PostOfTheWeek (season 3):
                                        Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez credited Morocco’s migration cooperation during a CNN interview at the World Governments Summit in Dubai, positioning the partnership as a template for European Union policy.

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                                        #26

                                        @grumpydad
                                        Sánchez stated that close coordination with Rabat has “very significantly” reduced irregular arrivals on Spanish territory. He identified Morocco as an essential strategic partner in regional migration management, attributing migration flow control to joint engagement and coordination with origin and transit countries.

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                          Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                          “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                          Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                          spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                          Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                          https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                          #27

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